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The Israeli military had US support in rescuing four captives from Gaza in a "complex daytime operation" in Nuseirat that killed over 200 Palestinians.

A US official told Axios that the US hostages cell in Israel had "supported" the effort to rescue the captives.

The Palestinian government media office in Gaza said the death toll from Israel's attack on central Gaza had reached at least 210, with 400 more wounded.

"The occupation has annihilated the Nuseirat refugee camp. Innocent and unarmed civilian were bombed in their homes. I've never seen anything like this. It's a catastrophe," local Nidal Abdo told Middle East Eye.

"I came from the camp to here in the hospital on foot. I can't describe how we fled. I saw dead children and body parts strewn all over as we fled. No one was able to assist them. I saw an elderly man killed on a animal-drawn cart.

"Nuseirat was being annihilated. It was hell."

It said: "American participation in the criminal operation that was carried out today proves once again the complicit role of the American administration, its full participation in the war crimes committed in the Gaza Strip, [and] the falsity of its declared positions on the humanitarian situation and its concern for the lives of civilians."

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[–] JeromeVancouver@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Glad to see 4 hostages rescues. Fuck Hamas.

[–] dlatch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How deranged do you have to be to think that it's okay to murder more than 200 innocent people to save 4? Imagine that there's a hostage situation somewhere near you, and the outcome is "we saved the 4 hostages, unfortunately 200 bystanders died". I can not comprehend how you can be so mentally disturbed that you can be okay with that.

[–] JeromeVancouver@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Innocents died and that is a tragedy but I do not believe all 200 are innocents when there are hostages being held. If I was complicit holding hostages in my home I would not be an innocent

[–] dlatch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Okay, let's assume only half are innocent (that's generous given the statistics of the invasion so far). That's still more than 100 innocent human beings murdered. Families torn apart, children orphaned, parents that have to bury their children, or families that simply stopped existing. How anyone can celebrate that outcome as a success I will never understand.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

These comments are unironically as insane as people that say that there are no innocents in israel and Hamas had the right to shoot every israeli.

But somehow Zionists saying insane Nazi shit just flies.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

How deranged do you have to be to think that it's okay to murder more than 200 innocent people to save 4?

Person you are replying to didn't do that in comment you are replying to.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

They meant to say it as they already commented

I do not believe all 200 are innocents

[–] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How deranged do you have to be to say Israeli lives are less important than Palestinian? Take your Hamas propaganda somewhere else troll.

[–] dlatch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Lol what? I'm clearly not saying that, I'm arguing Israeli lives are not worth more than Palestinian. My whole point is that a life is a life, I don't give a rats ass what side of an imaginary line on a map that person was born.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The issue here is that the IDF believes Israeli lives are FAR more important than Palestinian lives. How much? They actually have calculated how many Palestinian civilian deaths are acceptable to protect one Israeli soldier.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Glad to see 4 hostages rescued too.

Fuck Israel for their thinking 4 people are worth that.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"We know where our people are but Hamas has surrounded themselves with their own citizens. What should we do?"

"Damn. I guess we'll have to abandon our people then. Pack it up."

Stop letting Hamas' tactic work on you.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

4 adults for 23 kids is not worth it.

I would say that everyone of them should be reminded what their rescue cost repeatedly, but that’s not fair to them and the others are like you and think the trade is worth it.

Stop letting Israel’s tactics work on you.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Darn. Guess we just have to let Hamas and anyone who comes after do whatever they want as long as they keep their human shields nearby.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Whatever you have to tell yourself to be okay with killing kids friend.

It’s s probably just “they’re brown”

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Keep reducing everything to the color of people’s skin and you’ll continue to be confused about lots of other people’s positions on a wide variety of topics.

I’m sure it makes life simpler for you though.

Just in case you’re not totally gone, consider the Russia Ukraine conflict.

If Ukraine took action to recover their kidnapped citizens and it ended like this one did, I’d hold the exact same position. And gasp their skin is white!

Unlike lots of “progressives”, my opinion of right and wrong doesn’t change with people’s skin color.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago

You didn't even need to use that conflict as an example. Most Israelis are brown.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The majority of Palestinians I have on Facebook cheered and posted demeaning stuff when the original Hamas attack happened.

I understand they don't like Israel, but rejoicing and being assholes about regular people being raped and murdered really won't get me to care about your cause.

I don't like the Israeli government at all, but Hamas and the people who support Hamas can fuck right off.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

palestinians should shut up while being Genocided for the last 20 years with Zionists having a party about it and America supporting it.

Good thing you stood up for them before Oct7. They can always count on you.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Rumor: There are allegations with some still non conclusive footage floating that the IDF used a fake humanitarian aid truck during the rescue operation to get into the camp

And that the hostages were evacuated at the American temporary pier.

As UNRWA = Hamas is allowed without any evidence, surely we can post these allegations here.