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Women have more rights now in UAE than US?

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 70 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Breaking News - Middle East now less religiously radical than America...

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In Sharia law the woman has precedence over the fetus. So it is not less religiously radical, is just that when it comes to abortion [and divorce] Islam is not as anti-woman as Christianity.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Good to hear that I didn't invent the "pro the mother's life" opinion first, I've just never heard anyone else articulate it out loud

[–] RandomGuy79@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah just don't make that baby in an affair

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's just UAE, not Middle East.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The UAE here is actually catching up with other Middle Eastern countries:

Haaretz May 26, 2019: Alabama, Iran, or Saudi Arabia? We Checked Where Abortion Laws Are Better for Women.

Sherine Hamdy, a professor of Muslim bioethics at the University of California, Irvine, notes that for Muslim women, the U.S. anti-abortion trends are worrying not only because they harm women’s rights to reproductive agency, but also because they diminish religious freedoms, since Muslim religious ethics make a strong case for women’s well-being taking priority over that of the fetus. [emphasis mine]

The Center for American Progress JUL 8, 2022: Authoritarian Regimes Have More Progressive Abortion Policies Than Some U.S. States.

This means that Americans in states that effectively outlaw abortion, including Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, and South Dakota, will have fewer human rights protections than those in Iran or Saudi Arabia—countries that are often vilified by politicians across the ideological spectrum for their treatment of women. Iran, for example, allows abortion in cases of fetal impairment, and Saudi Arabia allows for abortion when the health of a patient is at risk—including mental health, which can function to allow for abortion in cases of rape or incest—contrary to only the narrow “life” or “medical emergency” exceptions that are now increasingly common in state bans in the United States. [emphasis mine]

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It is true. And yet it actually has been that way for a long time. The level of theocracy is actually lower in the UAE than in the USA. Which is super weird if you haven't experienced both.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 62 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Women have more rights now in UAE than US?

Not just in the UAE :)

Alabama, Iran, or Saudi Arabia? We Checked Where Abortion Laws Are Better for Women. FYI, Haaretz is an Israeli newspaper.

Authoritarian Regimes Have More Progressive Abortion Policies Than Some U.S. States. FYI, The Center for American Progress is an independent, nonpartisan policy institute that is dedicated to improving the lives of all Americans through bold, progressive ideas, as well as strong leadership and concerted action.

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Jesus, the US is sliding backwards faster and faster. Really cementing that first "3rd world country" label.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Americans dont hate Iran on ideological grounds. They hate Iran because they are jealous of their theocractic republic and desperately eant to emulate it.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 6 points 4 months ago

Mullahs of the supreme court making them proud tho

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Republicans have been trying to push us back for years.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s honestly really impressive. Good for them.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But just barely, it's just the absolute bare minimum IMO

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A small step in the right direction is still a step.

[–] bobburger@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not according to most users on Lemmy

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Likely born from frustration. It sucks knowing that the future you’re working towards is likely one you’ll never get to experience.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So they also have laws about if the mothers life is at risk.

Any word in if they're more liberal on that as well where the Dr's aren't terrified of doing one for an ectopic pregnancy or other life threatening situations.

In some places in the US that's not considered a threat to life until it's actually threatening your life.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The unspoken rule is that nobody cares. There are clinics that operate now in the non conservative areas in the open. Anyone, single mothers, expats, whatever, can get one no issue.

In the redneck areas, this is where this will make a change.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh that's kinda cool, I didn't know. If that's the case, it kinda seems like they're on the path to it just being fully normalized if those clinics are allowed to operate. I wonder how long it'll take to go from this change to the next change.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It's ridiculous that governments are still confused & trying to figure out all this no-brainer shit

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

UAE, Me & Dupree