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I am considering replacing my old 50" 1080p TV which I use with (external) Chromecast and Roku. I would like a 4K display 60" or greater but I really, really don't want any smart features. I am aware that I could purchase a commercial display to achieve this and that's my fallback option. Can anyone here make any useful recommendations? I am in the UK so e.g. 'Sceptre' is not available here.

In advance, with respect, I am technically capable (check my post history) but could I ask to please avoid threads along the lines of:

  • 'non-smart TVs aren't a thing' - fallback is a commercial display
  • 'Nobody wants/buys non-smart TVs' - I do
  • 'Any TV not connected to internet is dumb'/ 'Just don't connect it' - This is no longer true since many TVs require a setup before use involving internet access and/or will seek access via open wifi/bluetooth/HDMI.

Thanks!

Edit:

Some commenters seem to be struggling with the 'why do you care if it connects?'. Some examples why:

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[–] ArkhamNightshift@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd be the same tbh, in Ireland here, and I'm so fed up with constant updates for my TV 🙄 yeah it's handy that the remote has buttons for Disney+ and Prime and Netflix, but honestly it's not needed at all. Same as not wanting Bluetooth headphones or earphones, I don't want to have to worry about not being able to use earphones because they need charged 🙄 hard enough keeping my phone charged often enough without carrying around a charger pack. There's a lot of inconvenience with 'convenient' products.

Do these fuckin things actually require being connected nowadays?

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with just "not connecting it"?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

This question is asked repeatedly, and this is always the correct answer. I honestly wish I could understand why people can't seem to latch on to this concept.

[–] crossover@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I dont understand why you want to keep a TV offline for privacy/ad reasons, but also say you’re using a Chromecast or Roku media devices anyway? Thats like wanting to keep your windows locked but leaving your front door wide open.

Anyway, LG and Sony OLED TVs offer the best image quality and will work just fine without an internet connection.

I have my LG TV offline and use an AppleTV for everything. I never see the LG OS or Home Screen or any ads or logos once it’s configured to boot straight into external HDMI device.

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Because it's not principally about privacy. I don't want adverts or forced changes to the product I purchased made after sale.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 1 points 2 months ago

For me the reason I want a non-smart TV is the software is complete shit and even a Raspberry Pi runs smoother, and I can replace or upgrade the Pi when it becomes too old to be useful instead of the whole TV.

Those will all become dumb TVs over time, and then you're stuck using the crappy software to get to your HDMI input through all the lag even though the software is literally useless.

At least old TVs had ugly as hell but snappy and responsive menus. No waiting 5+ seconds between button presses because the home screen is lagging loading all those ads.

I caved in and got one anyway and I regret it. Manufactured e-waste. The amount of times I have to reboot the damn thing because even my HDMI input starts glitching out is plainly ridiculous.

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know you said to avoid the “just don’t connect it” advice, but I frankly think that’s your best bet without shelling out absurd amounts of money. I hate the concept of smart TVs, so like you I tried to find a reasonably priced dumb TV. Had zero luck. Instead, I bought a 55” Hisense TV (U8K) about 6 months ago, and have never once connected it to the internet. I think it’s technically a Google TV, but I wouldn’t know, since I just connect my devices to it, no internet necessary. It’s a gorgeous display with amazing picture quality. All the features are enabled, nothing was stuck behind an internet-wall. I don’t regret it.

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My reason for stipulating that is that lot of people saying it do so either from ignorance (they simply don't believe/understand that you might not be able to opt out) or on the basis of outdated information, e.g. "I bought my TV ten years ago and never had to do this". Your experience being in the recent past I guess I could try this as a sale stipulation point, thanks.

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We just got 3 LG tv's at work for an art exhibition. There's no network available here (it's a Napoleonic Fortress lol), and while they ask for it, dismissing all accounts/updates/online services is straightforward. You can delete all pre-installed apps (disney, netflix whatever) but LGtv and amazon. I can dig the model number tomorrow if you want.

OTOH I haven't owned a tv since 2001.

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, further information could be interesting. Do you know if it requests connectivity on every startup?

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It does not, I know it because I have started them multiple times.

We use them as dumb players with an USB drive inserted, playing video on a loop all day long.

I'll fetch you the ref tomorrow.

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Aw crap, completely forgot, worked another part of the building all day didn't ever got near the exhibition rooms.

Better luck tomorrow I hope, sorry.

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

LG OLED55C31LA

...sorry... work was crazy

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How about the biggest PC monitor you can get?

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Great! Could you link a 60" monitor?

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

I mean the biggest you can get, it's not the size of a TV but there have to be a downside not everything it's sunshine and rainbows in life.