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"Disrupter"... Yeah, we need to stop using that word. He's as much part of the establishment as the Tory members he's helped replace.
His party is a corporate entity, and we'll see how he gets on niw that he legally has to file his financial interests.
Disrupter in the sense of arsonist, vandal
Just a cunt.
Disrupter in the sense of a disruptive child throwing a tantrum.
He did disrupt the Tories and thus the whole country. He managed to get Brexit done without even being elected, and even precisely in the way he wanted (no-deal Brexit, the hardest of them all).
Doesn’t mean that he’s not establishment.
The typical playbook is lie until caught, shield oneself with lawyers as long as that works, get a light sentence or none due to being rich, and then tell one's electorate the whole thing was politically motivated persecution.
Of course I'm still new to UK politics, maybe the rouble has a different conversion rate here.
disrupter in the sense of public wanking
Not liking Farage is one thing but making up shit is another.
Of course he has had an impact on British politics. To say otherwise is madness.
Are you saying that I made something up? If so, let me know which bit it is and I'll happily correct it.
Just to be clear though, I wasn't saying he hasn't had an impact on British politics. As the front man for some very shady interests he helped bring about a brexit referendum by causing the Tory party internal angst (Cameron really thought the country would vote to remain and he'd silence the right of his party that was being egged in by Farage). Nor am I negating that he has enjoyed unprecedented media exposure that has helped divide the UK.
Something I’d love to see made a thing: whenever you see him, just walk by and say “fuck off, Nigel”. No more, no less - but if everyone starts to do it… 👍
The House of Commons has 650 seats. A party winning four is a strong showing?
By the amount of seats it wasn't very good, still more than most polls thought they would get though.
But by vote share, and the amount of constituencies where they came in second place, the threat is much worse.
But couldn't that be a sign that the Tories have completely fractured, so many of the hard right Tories went over to Reform?
I admit I am viewing this as an outsider, but as I'm a dual citizen, I am trying to keep informed.
But couldn't that be a sign that the Tories have completely fractured, so many of the hard right Tories went over to Reform?
Yes definitely, but that's still a problem, I doubt the Tories would be willing to keep failing electorally just because of Reform.
Some of the far-right Tories like Rees-Mogg have said they think they basically need to copy Reform to win back those voters, possibly even absorbing them into the conservative party, and Farage seems very willing to do that.
That makes sense. Considering how I may be on that side of the pond next year if the elections here are going the way they sound like they're going, I am trying to get as versed as I can in contemporary UK politics, so I appreciate the information.
I may be on that side of the pond next year if the elections here are going the way they sound like they're going, I am trying to get as versed as I can in contemporary UK politics, so I appreciate the information.
I'm in the exact same boat, lol. Just been paying attention since the train wreck that was Liz Truss.
They won 5 seats, not 4 but they had considerable share of the votes which is what makes them dangerous.
Seems but a tinkle. Sorry, I mean trickle. Got those confused cuz Farage is such a bellend.
A new party with FPTP winning 14% of the vote. Yea that's pretty strong. When was the last time that happened?
From the media’s point of view, he is now the PM-in-waiting.
As long as "PM" stands for "pretty mad".