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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 142 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Good. This is the kinda shit Dems should keep doing. It doesn't matter if it sounds petty, these assholes are a threat to our democracy, they should not be allowed to spew their lies without consequences. If the press refuses to do their job, it falls to whoever is closest to a Republican.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 59 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Buttigieg should be front and center a lot. He's whip smart, a great speaker, and really relatable

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[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, I’m so tired of this loyalty to decorum. Call them what they are, authoritarian regressives

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Christofascists

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Step 1: sell the press to the rich

Step 2: everything is shitty now, but why?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

We sold everything else to the rich. Why stop at the press?

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago (6 children)

“I’m wondering if there’s some point- if you’ve identified some point where you will stop, where the administration will stop, where the federal government will stop this requirement and let the market decide..."

Let the market decide? Sure let's do that. As of now, let's have the U.S. government stop subsidizing the oil industry to the tune of $20 billion+ per year and see who keeps buying gas powered cars when gas is $15-20 per gallon. Better still, pour that $20 billion into EV car development and green energy and help save the fucking planet.

[–] Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

not EVs. public transport. or at least mostly that and a little EVs

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Both, in particular, EV public transport. Something like this would be nice.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

For future readers, the quote in this comment is from GOP Representative Perry who was then immediately proven wrong by Buttigieg.

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[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I just wish Mr. Buttigieg wasn't confined to such a low-stakes role in the administration. It's great that he gets the occasional moments like this, but he's not exactly being set up for a run at the Presidency in 2028.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Dude's only 42. He's got plenty of time. Hell you can't even get elected these days if you aren't getting social security.

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Well, I'd like for him to get a shot BEFORE he's a senior citizen.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I dunno if I'd consider Secratary of Transportation as a low stakes role, he's been out and about getting IIJA funds out across the country and there to present new rail, highway, air and marine infrastructure improvements.

Plus, if an unspeakable fate were to befall thirteen specific individuals, simultaneously rendering them unable to perform their duties, you'd have a President Buttigieg.

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Compared to Defense, State, Homeland Security, Attorney General...

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[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of GOP voters don't really care about facts sadly. I've talked to some that insist Jan 6th wasn't an issue.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot? Pretty much all of them. Look at how many lies trump said during the debate... they'll lie directly to their base and their base isn't even intelligent enough to question it.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They even know they're being lied to, and still go along.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

Because they somehow think the lying will benefit them and not the people they hate.

Predicting a republican's reaction to any issue is easy because they are all grifters.

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it too late for him to replace Biden?

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (6 children)
[–] EveryoneDiesAlone@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Whitmer or whitehouse woukd be better, but the way the DNC plays things, they would obviously choose the weakest candidate for no reason other than to not seem biased against their opposition. It’s fucked. The whole thing is fucked.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think it’s a bit more nuanced than that. They’ll obviously choose the most neoliberal candidate they think they can get away with, and try to pass him (and it will be “him”) off as “progressive”

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

If only there was some kind of formal method for identifying and vetting and selecting the party representatives, as part of - like - an election or something. I feel like if maybe we'd started back in January and had a bunch of debates between these people early on, we might be able to include ourselves in the discussion.

Instead, I guess we're just going to wishcast our favorite blue state governor into the White House, until the DNC Convension disabuses us of our delusions.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All of these hearings serve no purpose other than to give Congress people 4 minutes of time to create some sound bites for the campaign.

Questions are widely leading or very inaccurate or even just lies ... If they ask a question at all. Some just spout garbage for a few minutes.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not always. Both Trump's NY fraud conviction, and election interference (hush money) felonies came out of the Michael Cohen hearing, specifically from AOC questions.

Your overall point is absolutely correct, though. It's even more frustrating when it's easy to see how powerful these hearings can be.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fishing for a guppy and caught a whale?

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't say so. She asked direct, pointed questions about how the Trump org had over valued properties and other assets in order to get more favorable loans. She knew exactly what she was doing during that hearing.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (7 children)

If Biden gets replaced, please be Pete

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

the bar is so low. did everyone forget who this guy is?

[–] Liz@midwest.social 8 points 4 months ago

I shall never forget as long as I live. Katie Porter or AOC would be better choices.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are you referring to?

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I would like a reminder as well

[–] jo3shmoo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Agreed. Pete in the debate would have been a dramatically different situation. I'd happily watch him fact check all day long.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I accept my anger and cynicism; I forgive myself for letting these people anger me. I try to “turn the other cheek” and simply be a better person than them. But…

…the more i hear these people talk, the more I’d love to see something excruciatingly painful to happen to them.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

central planning model and this dictatorial policy

Fuck you, Scott Perry.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its the same shit from these people day in and day out. The Reagan Playbook is half-disintegrated in their hands but they can't stop running it.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

As one of his constituents I approve this message.

[–] Donut@leminal.space 2 points 4 months ago

I didn't see anything in the article and the X embeds are just text to me, so here's a video: https://youtu.be/cu9OnPo5IIE

If you like to stay in good spirits, don't read the comments.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Him or Bernie should have been president

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