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Apollo can't afford Reddit's fees and will be subject to auto-refund for shutting down, so users can help by declining the refund.

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[–] JshKlsn@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Reddit is going crazy because they are calling him a millionaire. I'm sorry, but making a million dollars over the past decade makes him paid less than a regular developer, and 1 million dollars can't even buy you a crack shack in Canada.

Remember, Canada is the most expensive place to live. We have the most expensive housing and internet/data plans in the entire world.

Think logically. Don't think like childish Redditors.

[–] xyzinferno@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait, Redditors are now bandwagoning on this slander too? I just figured it was a bullshit claim that u/spez made that the rest of the Reddit community saw through and weren't buying.

If there actually is a large number of people actually believing this shit, then my already rock-bottom hope for Reddit has somehow plummeted further.

[–] Cheezi@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Every reddit thread about Apollo is filled with hate against Apollo and christian.

The message that's being repeated is that he's made millions of the poor backs of reddit and should be ashamed for taking advantage of the free api. Him asking to decline the refund is a scam/fraud to squeeze the last money he can from his poor users.

I would not be surprised to find out that the posts comes from bot farms or spez himself.

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

Dude, it's the internet. People are dumb by default around here. (Me very well included.)

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Millionaire absolutely doesn't mean what it did 30-40 years ago, too. Billionaire is a bit excessively high and isn't quite comparable to what millionaire used to be, and while of course most people have way less due to how the economy works, having a net worth of 1 million isn't a huge hurdle these days. We need a word for 100-millionaire. I'm sure Selig is not a 100-millionaire.

[–] colonial@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On the bright side, having Apollo on his resume should make landing a good dev job (assuming he didn't have one already) pretty easy.

He still shouldn't be on the hook for $250k though.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

They will still ask him to invert a binary tree, just to be sure he can code

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

[re-ordered slightly for coherence: c.f. the original post for the original order]

Remember, Canada is the most expensive place to live.

and 1 million dollars can’t even buy you a crack shack in Canada.

Last I heard Winnipeg was part of Canada, and I'm seeing quite a lot of nice, sizable homes under a million dollars.

Oh, you mean specific cities in Canada? That leads us to this then:

No Canadian city made it into this top ten list.

None made it into this top ten list either.

We have the most expensive housing and internet/data plans in the entire world.

OK, let's look at internet plans.

(Source)

Oops. Not only does Canada have nowhere near the most expensive Internet access, it's near the BOTTOM of costs relative to income worldwide!

[–] Flemmy@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's the other thing - he's maybe a millionaire, not a billionaire. That's middle class, maybe upper middle class if he's got other income

This is a normal person who just lost his job with little notice because of a greedy company, and, to add insult to injury, now has to come up with money for refunds out of the blue

I know I wouldn't feel good taking back that money, whether he can afford it or not

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Strange understanding of middle class right there, that includes about 5% of US American population.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He's not wrong. The owning class, the billionaires, are so ridiculously farther ahead that it makes millionaires middle class.

And this is why we need to tax them out of existence.

"Make Millionaires 'Rich' Again"

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That may be as it is, but that does not make the richest 5% of any population middle class.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It absolutely does when 90% of the wealth is grouped in the top one or two percent.

The difference between a millionaire and a homeless person is tiny compared to the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire.

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[–] Tag365@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Millionaires are only middle class now? What?

[–] paciencia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A million seconds is 12 days. A billion seconds is 31 years. That's how far income inequality has come. So yes, millionaires are middle class. I know so many people that think they are well off but are stupidly poor when compared to the top 1%

[–] Mayoman68@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Millionaires are definitely still well off but just to make a point: the average value of a US house is $450k. Add to this a $250k retirement fund and you're already up to 0.7M in net worth.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Does the average person in America also own an average house? Without knowing the statistics I think what you describe there might fit for upper middle class.

And there’s still quite a way to go before millionaire.

[–] SenorSimpai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

1 million dollars over the last decade is 100k a year. That's top 18% not top 5%. Top 5% would be over 350k a year. I'm just basing this off random Google stats so the numbers may shift a little but 100k is definitely upper middle class at best

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

A millionaire is a person who’s net worth is a million or more. As you noted that’s quite different from having had paychecks that sum up to a million.

[–] spaghetti_carbanana@krabb.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It doesn’t say how to decline it in that article, will it just pop up after the shutdown date?

[–] pampoon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You should be prompted when opening after updating to the latest version.

[–] SoPunny@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I’m so glad there are still decent people who try to do the right thing. Then there are the people who run Reddit.

[–] LordXenu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Did not get any other pop-ups after making a donation. Hopefully it will show up at some point.

[–] mr_robot@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I just updated but there was no prompt for this, only the wallpaper prompt

Update: I checked the Apollo sub and apparently many lifetime plan users don't have the option to decline the refund. That's a shame... Hope they fix it soon or I'll just leave a tip tomorrow

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I could be wrong, but my understanding was it's only for monthly plans. I don't think there are any automatic refunds for lifetime subscribers

[–] mr_robot@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah that definitely makes sense. Thank you! I didn't remember there was a monthly subscription option and thought everyone bought one time because I got mine super early on

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 1 points 2 years ago

Good wallpapers, though

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is hearbreaking news - and I'm a little shocked to realise that the creators of Apollo can't simply walk away from the app which got scuttled (or, more likely, actively sabotaged by deliberately extreme Reddit attack).

They should be able to take this to court to redirect the affected people to claim their refund from Reddit.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit doesn't owe them a refund... Apollo Inc. should owe them a refund and the developer simply walks away, because he's not personally responsible for Apollo Inc's debts.

[–] Itshaysus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Except he’s a nice person and not a piece of shit

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still haven’t seen this option appear anywhere.

[–] EeeDawg101@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was made available in the update that was released today. So you’ll need to update the app and then when you launch it after the update you should be presented with it.

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have the latest, but that never appeared. I tooted at Christian on Mastodon about it. We'll see if he responds.

[–] EeeDawg101@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao is “toot” the equivalent of “tweet” on mastodon?

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, which is unfortunate is you’re American.

[–] EeeDawg101@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“Toot” to Americans is another word for fart. I believe they use toot because it fits in with the Mastodon animal theme. Which makes sense. But when the whole twitter migration started, it was off-putting to a lot of people.

[–] EeeDawg101@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ohh I gotcha! Lol that’s funny. I haven’t really checked out mastodon yet so am out of the loop

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Try it out! It has taken off pretty well. Lots of big names from Twitter have moved over.

[–] EeeDawg101@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I sure will. Are there any good apps for it yet? Or just web based for now?

[–] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I use Ivory on iOS. It’s not free but I love it. It’s basically a port of Tweetbot. Then there’s Mammoth, which is free and great. I believe there’s an official app as well, but I haven’t tried it.

Mastodon.social is the largest instance, but it’s similar to Lemmy in that it’s federated. It also uses ActivityPub.

Today is a good day to join because it’s #FollowFriday. You can search that hashtag and find a lot of people to follow.

[–] Gorbachof@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Help with what?

[–] razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am a bit confused about this. I paid a one time fee to Apollo for features but I would not expect him to refund that. I re-downloaded the app (deleted it 3 weeks ago when I left Reddit) and did not see the option to opt out of a refund. I want to make sure that Christian does not have to pay out for me.

[–] Garblegork@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe the refund is for people who paid for a yearly subscription. Those people will get a refund for approximately half the price they paid because they only got to use the app for half a year.

[–] _s10e@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

Which is a sensible policy, generally speaking.

[–] ezekiel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It is only for the subscriptions that are still active and the refund is for the portion last July 1st

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