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[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I dunno man, LD is like half fan service and half universe building, and it's my favorite thing they've produced in the last decade and a half.

Can we just get Mike McMahan in charge of everything, please?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, Alex Kurtzman hired the guy, and is EP if "Lower Decks" along with all the other shows...

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am very aware of Kurtzman's influence on the franchise. I think he's not the right guy to be in charge. It really feels like this is a Dave Filoni/Kathleen Kennedy situation but in Star Trek.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dave Filoni/Kathleen Kennedy situation but in Star Trek.

I'm not sure what, exactly, you mean by this, but both of those people have had pretty acclaimed careers.

I find it hard to imagine looking at the Trek series since 2017 and making a convincing case that the franchise is being mishandled.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I wouldn't say mishandled but I would say both Disco and Picard's first two seasons were incredibly sloppy due to a clear lack of planning, vision, and the difficulty of transitioning to a fully serialized format.

By contrast Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds were really able to find their footing quickly because they had season-wide arcs but outside of that they were generally episodic and allowed for a lot more exploration of the core of the universe. This is just a better format for the franchise in my opinion.

I find Kurtzman is occupied with making the series more cinematic than it needs to be. Overly cinematic Star Trek results in eye bleeding lightshows like the finale of Disco S2, while grounding the shows a bit more allows for more character growth and development. You can't just always have Sacrifice of Angels all the time, you need to cut it with some Take Me Out to The Holosuite. I find that SNW and LD have found that balance for me.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, not everyone jerks off to Lower Decks. Its fun and has some great moments but the unbridled fan service can be unfunny and grating.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

Sure, the fanservice can be a lot.

My main thing is just that it's clear how much McMahan loves the source material and it's great how he can operate within the parameters of the universe with reverence despite being jocular.

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

I remain of the opinion that New Trek has some of the most annoying sci-fi fan service outside of Star Wars. given every opportunity there's references to other trek things crammed in everywhere