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This new dating app will use facial recognition technology to exclude trans women (www.lgbtqnation.com)

submitted 5 months ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not once have I encountered a trans person on a dating app who wasn't 100% transparent about it. Some even asked me after matching, "you're aware that I'm trans, right?" just to be sure.

There's no logical reason to falsely pretend to be cis on a dating app to get matches. If someone's cool about it then it's better to know up front, right? And if they're not, then you probably don't want to waste your time on them.

The "justification" for this app is just bigotry, plain and simple. Fuck TERFs.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It's absolutely happened to me. I also don't understand. Maybe the reasoning is, if they get me to invest enough time then maybe I'll suddenly be sexually attracted to penises? I don't know.

[–] chimera@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

First, from a purely technical perspective, there is absolutely no way this works properly, you just can’t recognize a trans person just by looking at his/her face, even if this was ethically okay (and this isn’t), it couldn’t work at all.

Second, the privacy nightmare that would be, every picture of everyone would be processed (and certainly stored forever for training the program) without the possibility to disable it ?

And finally, the obvious discrimination against trans people (I never encountered a trans person that wasn’t honest about it, so it’s even pointless to "detect" them)

To be honest I’m not in the LGBT community or anything, but this goes to far

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never encountered a trans person that wasn’t honest about it

I guess you're not on dating apps?

Happened to me a lot. For some reason, especially while I was on my way to meet them. "Hey, by the way, is it okay if I have a penis?*

Look, I'm sorry, I'm not attracted to penises. So far I've only had one attempt to say it's transphobic to not want to have sex with them, but even for the others it's really shitty to lead someone on like that.

[–] chimera@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

Oh trust me I was, I tested pretty much all of them 😂

the majority it was displayed directly in the bio, and the rest told me in the first or second message

I trust you but I can’t relate to your experience, I always encountered honest people (at least with this subject)

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What about making different classifications for cis and trans males and females? There are people who are not dating someone trans or who only date trans people.

Saving them the weird moment of realizing it seems good.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it seems ridiculous this isnt the standard way to do online dating. Many people dont want a trans partner, and many people only want a trans partner. Not being clear and upfront about these things only causes future heartbreak and rejection issues.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's really that simple from many trans peoples' perspective, as it places an obligation on them to out themselves before they even talk to a person. Many trans people's goal with transition is not to live as "trans" it's to live as their target gender, not some "other". Being trans is not a sexuality.

A better solution would be to have people who don't want to have the possibility of ever dating any trans person put that as part of their profile.

If people have an issue with doing that then it kind of reveals the truth of the issue for what it is.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I dont think suggesting transphobia when it comes to sexual preferences is appropriate, people can't choose those any more than they can choose to be black or white. There are also simple biological facts, perhaps a person wishes to have biological children with their partner. Or any other reason really, romantic preferences are entirely subjective and often not even a conscious preference.

That being said, i think a good compromise would be for people to be able to give these kinds of personal preferences to the dating site, similar to the age ranges they want to encounter. Then the system would automatically prevent incompatible preferences from getting matched, and nobody has to out themselves.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Perhaps they were not suggesting deep end transphobia (hate) but just low end aversion? You should have the right to not date a trans person, or a person with different skin color, but we could ask would it be better if none of us cared about that?

If we look for the source of people's choices one may find the answer to also be biology, with the rest being enviroment. The conventional wisdom of blaming people for their choices is not supported by evidence. Even the most evil people in history didn't choose to have a psychopathic personality, or choose their bad parents, or their hateful beliefs.