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[–] feoh@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I get it.

I don't love Snaps either.

However, a thing I try to remember and wish others would as well is simply this: Canonical is a company. Their goal is to make money. They are not out to create the ultimate free as in freedom Linux distribution.

This does (to my mind) not make them evil, and ESPECIALLY doesn't make the folks who work there evil. It makes them participants in the great horrible game that is Capitalism, and expecting anything else from them is going to lead to heartache, as you've seen.

If you want a Linux distro that shares your preferences and won't try to jam snaps down your throat, you might consider giving Debian a whirl as many others have.

Continuing to ride the Ubuntu train and raging against the dying of the light when it continues chugging in the direction it's been headed for YEARS seems ... futile :)

[–] Tundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Agreed.

For any (k)ubuntu refugees, do as I did and switch to Debian!

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Or as I did and switch to fedora! (Debian's also a really good option)

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How do snaps make money for Canonical?

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

There's no way to install a snap except through Canonical's snap store (or snap store proxy, which gets them from Canonical's snap store).
They're charging for kernel security live patches. They charge for LTS. If they get enough buy-in re: snaps, they're going to do the only thing a for-profit company can do.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Money is literally the very incarnation of evil via the Talisman it bears.

If they trying to make money then they are, not a fiber of otherwise, Evil.

You're decision to not recognize the blatant & obvious Talisman does not make you correct. It's not your choice. It's the choice of that occult chant and signature.

[–] feoh@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Humans are inherently evil. There is but a thin veneer we call "civilization" that stops of from beating each other to death with whatever object can be brought to hand.

And what does any of this have to do with the price of tea in China? :)

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago

I dunno, what does it have to do with the price of tea in China?

[–] exscape@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ubuntu is just getting worse and worse. I was pretty happy running Ubuntu server for years after moving from Gentoo; I jag lost interest in spending time taking care for that server and wanted something easy.

I went to Debian half a year ago and it's been great. Should've done it earlier.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I gave up Ubuntu when they switched Firefox to a snap

[–] leadore@kbin.social -1 points 6 months ago

I gave up Ubuntu when they switched to the Unity desktop. ugh!

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I dont mind snaps but blocking deb installs by default on file clicks is a bad look.

[–] erici@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don’t get the anger. Just install your software as snaps. What’s the problem?

[–] kronarbob@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I've seen a video where the guy installed steam on Ubuntu 24.04. Of course it was the snap. The guy usually tests distro to see of it's easy to game on it. If the drivers are easy to install, etc...

He usually launches steam, then tests Valheim, Overwatch, Tomb Raider and cyberpunk.

Overwatch didn't launch, cyberpunk neither. Valheim reported that a service didn't launch. Tomb raider was OK.

Then he uninstalled the steam snap and installed the .deb one. Everything worked.

Enforcing packages is already something that people don't appreciate on Linux, enforcing packages that don't work is surprisingly hated.

Ubuntu is supposed to be a distro for beginners, how am I supposed to recommand a distro when I have no confidence the applications will work ?