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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

This makes a strong case on the discovery side of the discovery vs. invention controversy.

Ironically, my dad idolized Pythagoras and the notion of discovering a scientific fundamental to be remembered for thousands of years, for which the secret is not to actually do science, but raise a cult of scientists who attribute their inventions to you. Like Thomas Edison.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this common knowledge that the Indians knew the theorem well before Pythagorus?

[–] NanoBookReview@zirk.us 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@mukt @Zerush A fair number of people worked out the Pythagorean theorem before Pythagoras existed. For some reason his name stuck for our culture.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Given what other comments are saying about him (cult leader appropriating works of others), I think the west/europe would do well not to associate themselves with him.

[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

because understanding the history of our technology gives anthropologists a better way to determine what we were capable of in our earliest stages of civilization. because understanding the history of us is important to understanding who we are. do you really not see the value in knowledge?

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I knew Pythagoras was smart but I never knew he invented time travel. So cool!

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I took the opposite tack.

You ain't shit, Pythagoras! You just wrote it down, you didn't figure it out, you absolute fucking fraud. We're taking your immortality back!

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Quick! Change all the textbooks to “clay tablet theorem”!

[–] maniii@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Why not call it the Summerian Theorem ? Or Arabic/Persian/Philistine Triangulation Theorem ?

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It always seemed weird to me that it would be formally developed so late. Like I've taken multiple trigonometry courses and can't even define trigonometry let alone make sense of most of it, but the Pythagorean theorem is a purely intuitive thing everyone does regularly. The first person to take a diagonal shortcut while walking understood it. It should have been the first thing mathematics codified after basic arithmetic.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the Pythagorean theorem is a purely intuitive thing everyone does regularly.

Excuse me, what?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

It is if you needed to collect taxes and wanted a way to measure 📐

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What I would like to know is if tablets like this are being scanned digitally into three dimensions so that they can be reproduced. I feel like everything we find from antiquity needs to be scanned this way. With humans constantly going to war destroying history, I'd hate the idea of losing things like this forever.

UPDATE: And thus a journey down the interwebs rabbit hole begins. I need better internet and PC to check this out more later, but answering my own question, here's the entrance to the rabbit hole should others wish to venture with a few examples:

[–] lemmingnosis@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Didn’t all kinds of antiquities get destroyed in Iraq? Totally irreplaceable stuff.

As you alluded, probably common in many places. How sad.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh man.

It's only recently that the idea of "archaeology" has been a thing. Before then there were only "antiquarians" which were just looters.

Often they had royal backers. There's a podcast series called "stuff the British stole"

There's pretty well documented instances in the 1800s in Egypt, and pompeii.

Honestly the amount of amazing stuff that has just been "collected" is just eye watering.

[–] lemmingnosis@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

That puts some of my own knowledge into perspective :)