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IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR LEMMY.WORLD USERS (aussie.zone)
submitted 6 months ago by unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone to c/australia@aussie.zone
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Hello from across the fediverse!

If you've contributed to the conversation in discussions in this community you may have noticed you weren't getting a lot of interaction (at least from outside your instance: lemmy.world). There are a couple of reasons for this and I will unpin this post when the issues are resolved.

The problem is basically that lemmy.world is sending too many activities for aussie.zone to keep up with, this is mostly due to the latency going from Europe to Sydney. There are some features being developed for Lemmy to hopefully fix this issue (expected in 0.19.5). The delay currently means that activities are taking around 7 days to reach aussie.zone.

The admins of aussie.zone do a great job keeping the instance going as a place for us to gather and discuss Australia and related issues so please do not direct any criticism at them over this. To be able to properly interact with our community I would recommend creating an account on another instance for the time being (as far as I know lemmy.world is the only problematic one).

If you're interested there is currently a discussion ongoing in !meta@aussie.zone (link for aussie.zone users) covering this.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hello, i'm the admin from monyet.cc, and here we also faced the same problem, with the connection going from Singapore to other side of the planet is sorta hard for us to keep up as well. Lemmy.world traffic is just significantly higher than the second most active lemmy instance, hopefully the future update will solve this issue.

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fellow lemmings who can't read lemmy.world posts (in a timely fashion anyway) of the world UNITE!

If you're down for a bit of tinkering and paying for an additional VPS based in Finland, someone in the thread dhmo linked to wrote some software that can be deployed on a VPS nearer to where Lemmy world's servers are and will send the jobs in batches to your server which will massively help. It seems to be quite a technical and involved process, but if you were able to figure out how to get Lemmy set up, I'm sure you could figure this out too. Otherwise apparently the next major Lemmy upgrade will introduce parallel processing and sending, so that should resolve the problem

More info about the above tool here: https://aussie.zone/comment/9155614

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The delay currently means that activities are taking around 7 days to reach aussie.zone.

That's some mega lag !

I have a couple accounts, one on Lemmy.world so I'll stay away from that.

Cheers for the work and the info.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Basically, jobs are processed in a serial fashion, and each job involves several steps of back and forth communication between the two instances to complete. Add in around the globe latency, and new jobs arrive faster than old jobs can be cleared out of the queue.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That is a terrible design for a global platform lol

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Apparently delays over 7 days just result in the entire job being thrown in the bin too, so that actually means a lot of things just aren't federating here at all....

And tbf I don't think the Lemmy Devs anticipated thousands of people joining at the same time, so that doesn't help

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also there isn't meant to be a huge instance like world, the point of federation Is to avoid this, but users always tend to join big instances on federated services like lemmt and matrix and such

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 6 points 6 months ago

I can kind of understand that to be honest. I refused to sign up to Aussie zone for a while because I thought an Aussie instance would be too niche to attract enough members to remain viable and would collapse after a few months. Even once I realised there was probably enough activity for it's admins to want to keep it, I stayed on shitjustworks.

I knew that I didn't want to join any of the big instances because I thought they'd probably be hugged to death, so my first account was on beehive. But their email verifications and strict sign up requirements were confusing so I lived on shitjustworks for a while

[–] unionagainstdhmo2@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This is a test post from an alt account to see if there is still a delay (Sent on 5/6/2024 at 1550 AEST)