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Archaeologists in the ancient Roman city of Pompeii have uncovered a painting which depicts what might be the precursor to the Italian pizza.

The flatbread depicted in the 2,000-year-old fresco "may be a distant ancestor of the modern dish", Italy's culture ministry said.

But it lacks the classic ingredients to technically be considered a pizza.

The fresco was found in the hall of a house next to a bakery during recent digs at the site in southern Italy.

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[–] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

But it lacks the classic ingredients to technically be considered a pizza.

What are the required ingredients? Can they be sure the ingredients are not hidden underneath the ones on top?

[–] BrownPolarBear 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They did a taste test, and noticed it had fresco cheese instead of mozzarella

[–] slicktor@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

I'll upvote this but I don't like it.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

90% sure it's tomatoes. They are not native to Europe and were only introduced in the colonial era.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I get pizza without tomatoes all the time. Chicken bacon ranch pizza contains zero tomatoes. I need to talk to this uninformed pizza gatekeeper.

[–] burningmatches@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

Not sure the Italians consider a chicken bacon ranch pizza to be a pizza.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

This brings up a good point. BBQ chicken pizza, donair pizza, and pesto pizza all don't have tomatoes.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Required? I'd go with water, flour, yeast, salt, olive oil.

After that it becomes difficult as a pizza bianca with nothing else but olive oil would be strange, you generally get at least garlic and some cheese, but that's the minimal set of ingredients shared by every pizza.

OTOH, cheese might actually be a requirement, can't think of a cheese-free pizza right now. Oh this is going to piss of the vegans.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

may have been eaten with fruits such as pomegranates or dates, or dressed with spices and a type of pesto sauce

[–] knatsch@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i would say tomato and cheese and think i see both

[–] lightsecond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tomatoes were only introduced to Italy in the 1500s (from the Americas) so i highly doubt they had tomatoes in Pompeii at that time. :)

[–] knatsch@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah you're right, i'm dumb. Still think the red thing on the left looks like a tomato wonder what that actually is.

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 1 points 2 years ago

pomegranate?

[–] japps13@lemmy.physfluids.fr 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don’t know which ingredients are required but I don’t think they had tomatoes at that time. Wasn’t they discovered in the new world?

[–] electrorocket@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correct. They were over 400 years from having tomato sauce on pizza. They did have pesto, as the article mentioned.

[–] rostriano@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago

Make that over 1400 years.

[–] peanuts4life@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

IS THAT A PINEAPPLE NEXT TO THE PIZZA??!!!

[–] NRDK@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] NRDK@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

The only real pizza

[–] EvilColeslaw@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Pineapple is native to South America, so probably not.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] saba@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

cool, just watched the movie "Pompeii" last night and then my wife and I were looking up photos from there. (I also made a homemade pizza yesterday)

[–] helovesblink182@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are all pizzas on this blessed day

[–] saba@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

speak for yourself

[–] BigOlPaynus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder what does it taste like

[–] returnofthemack@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

Better ingredients. Better pizza. Pompeii John's

[–] tookmyname@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Plaster, mostly.

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