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For the first time since the launch of Russia's full-scale invasion, no Ukrainian brigades have reported a lack of artillery shells, President Zelensky told reporters yesterday (kyivindependent.com)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by realitista@lemm.ee to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz
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The original was posted on /r/ukrainianconflict by /u/Baysdarby on 2024-05-17 09:34:27+00:00.

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[–] gigachad@feddit.de 35 points 5 months ago

The title is a bit confusing at first, but good news once you understand it!

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As it should be this far in.

There's no reason Ukraine should lose this war due to ammunition.

Maybe Russia still pulls something off, or they meat grinder their way through or something, but lack of ammunition shouldn't be why.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's no reason it should happen, but it's the most likely way that Ukraine will lose. The coalition will break down and countries will stop doing their part.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Several long term, at scale, contracts have been signed. Factories are scaling up, Europe is feeling the pressure. And with the absence of stocks these factories need to be producing at max capacity for a while to supply Ukraine and replenish stocks.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If they increase output and Ukraine wins, yay Ukraine wins.

If they increase output and Ukraine falls and Putin tempts fate by attacking the Baltics / Nato they're already at increased output.

Really it's a win win at this point in terms of success or readiness.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Hence the investments. They make sense. NATO has known for at least 2 decades their ammo stocks where insufficient for any prolonged conflict.

Narrator:

Politicians believed this type of conflict was of the past.

They where wrong.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My concern isn't manufacturing capacity, but Russian influence on politics making various world leaders withhold the output of that manufacturing capacity. This happened the USA and it took startling few Russian proponents to make it happen.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I'm there with you buddy.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Exactly. Russia's ultra right wing candidates are poised to win all over Europe and potentially USA. Until we get better fighting against their influence campaigns and buying off of politicians, this is the way they will win.

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh thank God

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

, the USA, Denmark and the Czechs! And some others!

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

Fire for effect boys!

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Fuck russia, including the republican traitor filth.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago

Fire mission all available!

[–] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

More Russian fertilizer then. Good news indeed.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

The way it should be. We still need to support Ukraine more.

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Now let's keep increasing European production so that we don't need to go scraping stockpiles around the world while waiting for Republicans in the US to stop supporting Putin.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

It's happening... excruciatingly slowly