There's no reason it should happen, but it's the most likely way that Ukraine will lose. The coalition will break down and countries will stop doing their part.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Several long term, at scale, contracts have been signed. Factories are scaling up, Europe is feeling the pressure. And with the absence of stocks these factories need to be producing at max capacity for a while to supply Ukraine and replenish stocks.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If they increase output and Ukraine wins, yay Ukraine wins.

If they increase output and Ukraine falls and Putin tempts fate by attacking the Baltics / Nato they're already at increased output.

Really it's a win win at this point in terms of success or readiness.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Hence the investments. They make sense. NATO has known for at least 2 decades their ammo stocks where insufficient for any prolonged conflict.

Narrator:

Politicians believed this type of conflict was of the past.

They where wrong.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My concern isn't manufacturing capacity, but Russian influence on politics making various world leaders withhold the output of that manufacturing capacity. This happened the USA and it took startling few Russian proponents to make it happen.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I'm there with you buddy.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Exactly. Russia's ultra right wing candidates are poised to win all over Europe and potentially USA. Until we get better fighting against their influence campaigns and buying off of politicians, this is the way they will win.