Don't be evil
this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
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It still strikes me as odd that anybody ever trusted a mega.
Use peertube?
I wonder if that'd work, or if the Great Firewall of China already blocks it in Hong Kong
With Invidious, it would have to block every single accessible instance for that to work. You can proxy the video through the instance to avoid censorship.
tbh, I know little about the capabilities of the Great Firewall. Maybe it already is possible to circumvent it with a VPN or an anonymity network like I2P or TOR. Also don't know if they block per IP or in blocks. Possibly hosting the peertube instance on public cloud infra would make it difficult to block if the IP changed at certain intervals.
Hosting peertube could however provide dissenters with more options than youtube.
Anybody have a VPN link into HK? It'd be easy to find out.
There are 42 RIPE Atlas probes online in Hong Kong.
Someone part of the Atlas network could check this against various probes.
I don't get the premise of posts like that. We scold Google and other corps for not following the laws they are supposed to follow (data protection for example).and then we scold them for daring to follow lawmakers, when we don't like the laws they follow. Which is it?
I think the point is to scold Google for the harm they cause or fail to prevent. When the law is written so as to genuinely prevent harm (data protection, for ex) then I will scold those who don't follow it. When the law is written so as to be ineffective at best and harmful at worst, I will scold those who do follow it.
The point isn't to be consistent with regards to the law, as the law itself is not always either consistent nor "good".
... unless it is me that isn't understanding your own comment?
So we want Google and such to ignore laws when we think they should be ignored? Who decides which is which then?
The people? Democracy really isn't that hard.
Human Rights are higher than any law. Just because its law in China, does not mean it is correct to follow the law. It is not we decide which laws to follow, but it is universally in entire world the right thing to support Human Rights, regardless of any law.
Maybe we need a law to know which laws to follow.
If the nazis are in power and the law says you have to obey the nazis, is it morally right to obey the nazis?
It is literally either follow this law or cease operations here. Both would end in the song being blocked anyway.
Mind you, I wish we were that level of strict when it came to our data privacy laws.
It is literally either follow this law or cease operations here. Both would end in the song being blocked anyway.
Which does not change the fact that Google does it. So the reason why Google supports China and their anti Human Rights laws is, because of money. That's what we criticize.
They had a choice between complying to censorship, or refusing to play along and if necessary stop doing business in Hong Kong.
In the past, Google Search got out of China for the same reason.
It doesn't make sense to expect any kind of morality from an evil system. Google is just a mindless legal entity seeking rents/profits while the profiteers try to avoid state violence. It's like getting mad at a leech for being a leech.
I think the reason people are mad is less about "google please follow the law" and more about "google please do the right thing"
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YouTube said on Tuesday that it would comply with a court order to block users in Hong Kong from viewing a popular democracy anthem, raising concerns about free speech and highlighting the increasing fraught environment for tech companies operating in the Chinese territory.
“We are disappointed by the court’s decision but are complying with its removal order by blocking access to the listed videos for viewers in Hong Kong,” the representative said.
Like most tech companies, Google has a policy of removing or restricting access to material that is deemed illegal by a court in certain countries or places.
Links to the videos would also stop showing up on Google search results for users in Hong Kong after they become unavailable on YouTube to viewers in the region, according to the company representative.
Beijing has asserted greater control over the former British colony in recent years by imposing a national security law that has crushed nearly all forms of dissent.
In March, the Hong Kong government enacted new security legislation that criminalized offenses like “external interference” and the theft of state secrets, creating potential risks for multinational companies operating in the Asian financial center.
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