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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Beehaw did it already :)

Not that I blame them.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Beehaw's degeneration is actually temporary. They said they would like to refederate with major instances when there's better mod tools available. The problem is they're only 4 admins and don't really have the capability to moderate that well right now.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

yeah, that's what i've read. They're protecting their people, and that's an admirable thing. Wonder where cross instances admin tools are on the roadmap.

In any case our equivalent federated communities are coming up to strength now and we're starting to get decent levels of interactions without them.

[–] assbutt@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

they're only 4 admins and don't really have the capability to moderate that well right now

We know, they continually remind us.

[–] cai@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In your entire comment history, this is actually the least hostile comment you've ever made. Amazing

[–] smartwater0897@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure he intended it to be more hostile. Maybe next time. :)

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Username is assbutt, I expect nothing but shit-talking from them.

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[–] Fisk400@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Beehaw did the opposite. If you are from reddit, you are not the pink people. You are the grey ones. Beehaw said no before the fourth panel happened.

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[–] klieg2323@lemmy.piperservers.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Nothing of value was lost

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, 1/3 of all of my google searches for a give topic come from a reddit post. There were as useful as stack exchange for most technical questions.

The management and problems are nothing but the millions of curated answered questions are pretty damn useful.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Me, who only made an account because I was banned from Reddit and has no idea how Fediverse stuff works: whistles nervously

[–] tsukii@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I fled to Lemmy from Reddit because I need a place to show art without being under some platform whose vision and actions I don't support

[–] noodles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pixelfed is viable option too, i would love to see your art there!

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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Banned from Reddit? What’d you do, tell Spez to go fuck himself?

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I told him to fuck himself plenty and never even got aknowlaged

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[–] Sjoerd1993@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (11 children)

No offense, but how do you manage to get banned from Reddit? A certain sub, sure, but the entire website?

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Said that I would murder andrew tate is given the opportunity and apparently that counts as a credible threat of violence

[–] escaped_cruzader@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is very violent phrasing and you only deem it ok because it's geared toward the "right kind of people"

I'm fine with that

[–] Sjoerd1993@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Would that even count as a crime in the first place? Interesting either way, didn’t expect that would trigger a ban on the website.

Again, can totally see that happening on a sub, but giving the amount of vile that has been given a free platform on the site I didn’t think they’d bother.

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[–] piezzo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

i guess most of us dont know a lot about the whole fediverse stuff. but the longer you are here, the more you will learn about it. so far, it's pretty interesting!

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[–] JeffCraig@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The beauty of the fediverse is that the last panel can't happen.

We control our own instances. There's no world where admins wouldn't defederate from any Facebook attempt to barge in.

Maybe a few larger instances sell out, but users hold the power here now. If an admin betrays our trust, we'll just make a new instance.

[–] doctorzeromd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even more than defederating, it's in the hands of users. If people were to flood in from somewhere with bad intentions, it would likely be from one or two servers. At that point, just block those servers/communities from your view and continue about your day

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At that point, just block those servers/communities from your view and continue about your day

But what if those servers/instances are the ones which has quality communities in it and what if the users and owners of those communities refuse to migrate to new server/instance? Wouldn't that be the same case of reddit where the user base is split and the new migrated server/instance needs building again?

[–] ram@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

DING DING DING. Here's Facebook's playbook:

  1. Create close sourced ActivityPub implementation to federate with mastodon/lemmy and gain users.
  2. Offer better experience than competition via exclusive features, reliability, more communities, etc.
  3. Once enough users have been obtained, completely defederate from fediverse.
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[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They could defederate servers that don’t do exactly what they want and servers that are defederated might capitulate. The last frame is very possible and we’ve already seen it start to happen with thedonald on shitjustworks.

Edit: that said, I know the Donald comes from Reddit so it’s not the best example. But it’s an example of the method by which the last panel could happen.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not really what happened here. It was 1 guy who made a community. That 1 guy was banned and his community was deleted for breaking the rules (specifically rule 2, no bigotry). Just before he got banned, people on other instances were freaking out like we just had the entire population of /r/the_donald join up here when it was 1 troll who broke our rules.

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[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

In support of your statement, here's the Fedipact, signed by so many servers and communities across the Fediverse to not let Meta (or any other corpo, in that matter) to barge into the federation:

https://beach.city/@vantablack/110589010586936018

[–] notExactlyI20@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's what already happened with Lemmingrad.

I personally don't care what their opinions are, but funny thing is that they can defederate from pretty much all instances where they feel attacked. As long as this doesn't change in the future with the fediverse, I'm okay with that

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is one of the biggest aspects I looking forward to with a federated future. It will be easier than ever to pack up and start your own thing, and it can be as connected/disconnected from the old thing, as you want.

[–] Fuyuhikodate@diggit.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

hey thanks and sorry for forgetting to give credit to the artist

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[–] Cynosure@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Soon? This has pretty much already happened with lemmygrad

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[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry everyone I'm gonna be going now before it gets too crowded. ..jk. this is a great meme btw.

[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Dude... Like....

Duuuude...

I don't know how to phrase this, but Reddit was getting filled with... Normal people? Nongeeks? The socially adept?

I'm sooo glad to be back with silly peeps. I missed that sense of critical self awareness haha. And I've been able to express some controversial opinions without getting locked and banned, which is mellowing as fuck.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I believe reddit was simply filled with all kinds of people. There is an array of subs to choose from with different interests and activity levels. I find it silly that people on reddit consider themselves "non-normal" and "geeky". I don't think you're that special.

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[–] cashews_win@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I can say things like:

"I like Brains faggots more than any other brand" and "Retard the accelerator" without my comment being deleted and/or Reddit-banned for hate-speech.

I once got suspended from Reddit for saying: "The Scots weren't innocent during the British Empire. They were used for a lot of rape & murder".

It was considered racist. Until I appealed with 2 academic history papers that showed the Scottish Highlanders were considered a "martial race" and were used extensively in colonial campaigns during the British Empire. I really don't want to have to fucking educate dumb-as-brick Yank admins who don't know history or language beyond their shores.

I was finally site-suspended and can't create new users because a mod accused me of evading a sub ban. I didn't. Another mod just unbanned me cos the reason I got banned originally was idiotic. The mod didn't care. Re-banned me so my 15yo account got permanently suspended by the admins.

I'm done with that fucking site.

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[–] marcar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This works on so many levels

[–] themadcodger@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It really does. My first thought was a lot of cities where it's run down and depressed and the more hipster artsy types show up for the cheap property and make something interesting. Eventually the affluent catch wind and show up to take advantage of what was created and price the originals out.

[–] OWSEEX@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

“include this”, “include that”, bitch, I don’t want your propaganda in my place, gtfo

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Something like this could happen. Some instance admins of Fediverse instance admins met with Facebook. They are trying to include facebooks services to fediverse. I hope they wont do that. Otherwise this meme gets reality.

[–] hydra@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I heard the Mastodon admin refused to cooperate.

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[–] Durmer@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

Original comic by @webcomic_name (Instagram) aka Alex Norris - a true legend!

[–] hurricane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The circle of digital life. sigh

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