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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I feel like as someone who's been through all the generations of windows as NT, Microsoft has a grand idea for how the desktop should work. It wasn't until iOS came around the corner and landed on the iPad in 2010 that Microsoft felt the pressure to redesign everything.

At that point, surface was a design concept for a table top computer running an application on top of a windows PC. iOS had made the leap Microsoft never could. Rapidly Microsoft turns around a new interface for windows 8 in 2012 and since then we've been dealing with the fact that Microsoft wants to make every computer essentially an iPad ... From 2010.

Everything they do from locking down the ecosystem, enforcing uniformity in design, force all apps to deploy via the store, always online design. This design philosophy was trust into the mainstream by Apple. However apple was right to fragment the ecosystem into Mac os and iOS.

Microsoft wants to beat them to the punch with one OS on everything and it's just not doable without starting from scratch. It's not stopping them from trying.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alternatively, it was after Apple's explosion in popularity that professionals in graphical design started taking over most of the reigns of UI development, and actual UX became bottom priority. I.E. it was when the majority of Windows development started being done by Apple users, using Apple devices.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

I was going to say this...it's only designed like trash because the people designing it use trash like Apple products and want things to be pretty and not functional, problem is they suck at design and still suck at making things functional so it's double trash

[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why microsoft "felt pressure" at all.

People loved windows 7 and hated windows 8. But they kept doing more of what the customers hated over and over, and now they're blocking people from using the work-arounds that make their systems usable for them.

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot of things wrong with Microsoft as a company. It is too big and the pressure is very real, intense, and human. They have a culture of self cannibalism where teams compete for resources to appease the whims of their naked emperors. That spite lives on for years and almost any old Microsoft employee will brag about it like they survived the killing fields.

https://gizmodo.com/j-allards-farewell-email-to-his-microsoft-team-i-req-5547715

[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago

we really need to have a revolution in every workspace and making everything a democratic worker-owned co-op

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

they tried starting from scratch, but backward compatibility is their strong suit

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There will be one day where you have to jailbreak your windows to still use it like you want to.

[–] ximtor@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or, you know, use another OS

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no! linux is so hard it causes me to convulse violently!

[–] ximtor@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I kinda get that feeling..i also used to think its unintuitive/complicated. Nowadays i love it, but I also dont mind investing a bit of time to troubleshoot every once in a while. It has been a pretty stable experience on PopOS though.

But also there are different levels for sure. i guess Mint would be a fairly uncomplicated choice?

Edit: i also just realized this is all about windows here. I got a bit lost and will see myself out..

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

i was being ironic 😅

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago

Someone high-up at Microsoft really doesn't want to admit that the W11 UI re-do wasn't a resounding success.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Microsoft: Prettier! It has to be prettier!

Users: More it's different which i hate,and broken which is worse. Thanks d-bags.

[–] ceiphas@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

First remove the win10 taskbar, the win NT 4 Computer Management can wait...