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Is RAID still needed? (programming.dev)

submitted 7 months ago by Clydesdalecrusher@programming.dev to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Me and my friend were discussing this the other day about how he said RAID is no longer needed. He said it was due to how big SSDs have gotten and that apparently you can replace sectors within them if a problem occurs which is why having an array is not needed.

I replied with the fact that arrays allow for redundancy that create a faster uptime if there are issues and drive needs to be replaced. And depending on what you are doing, that is more valuable than just doing the new thing. Especially because RAID allows redundancy that can replicate lost data if needed depending on the configuration.

What do you all think?

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Unlike hdd, I never experienced graceful disk failures on ssd. Instead, they just randomly decided to die at the most inconvenient time. Raid 1 saved my hide a couple times now from those ssd failures.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 7 months ago

Yep. While it has been decades since I had a home SSD failure. But I have had 2 SSD failures in the last 10 years in server hardware. In the first case it was RAID striped and I needed to restore from backup. In the second case it was part of a raid 1 array and I just requested a replacement and got on with my day.

In my house, I have non raid SSDs on my own PC. But important stuff is on my NAS made up of 4xHDD drives in raid 5 (that also has the important folders backed up to an encrypted cloud).

RAID still has a place in an overall data security solution. Especially for servers that you want to keep up.

[–] Doombot1@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago

…absolutely, positively, super false. I work in a sector where we’re constantly dealing with huge capacity enterprise SSDs - 15 and 30 terabytes at times. Always using RAID. It’s not even a question. Not only can you have controller malfunctions, but even though you’ve got what’s known as “over provisioning” on the SSDs, you still need to watch out for total disk failures!

[–] Glass0448@lemmy.today 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

SSDs still have component bottlenecks that can kill the whole drive, same as hard drives.

Also, 3-2-1 is far superior to RAID, but having RAID on top of that is nice.

Maintain three copies of your data: This includes the original data and at least two copies.
Use two different types of media for storage: Store your data on two distinct forms of media to enhance redundancy.
Keep at least one copy off-site: To ensure data safety, have one backup copy stored in an off-site location, separate from your primary data and on-site backups. https://www.veeam.com/blog/321-backup-rule.html

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

3-2-1 is for backup, RAID is also for availability, eg your domain server not going down in case of drive failure. good point though.