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Reddit Migration

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hey! I went on reddit to invite people over here on a subreddit..
And asked if someone would be interested to create maintain a magazine/community that don't exist here. I got shit over...
Thoughts?

links:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IASIP/comments/14gbtkg/found_an_iasip_community_in_the_fediverse/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCinemassacreTruth/comments/14gayv6/anyone_willing_to_manage_a_lemmykbin/

one shared my post elsewhere to laugh at me:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CinemassacreTruth/comments/14gcnmk/anyone_willing_to_manage_a_lemmykbin/

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[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 110 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think proselytizing is necessary anymore; we've got enough folks on here now to get a sustainable community going, other people gradually finding their way over here over the next year or two (much as it happened with digg) is much better than a crazy server-destroying / spam-proliferating rush.

Reddit was perfectly enjoyable a decade ago with 10% as many users, we don't need very many of them to be able to offer a worthy reddit replacement to anybody who seeks one. (plus I suspect within 6 months or so we'll have way better apps than reddit does)

[–] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

100%. the level of comments kbin are blowing my mind, actual discussion. debate. different perspectives. people writing full sentences and explaining their thoughts.

instead of people being banned and insulted for having a differing opinion. or being told they are mean and bad people.

the 3rd grader level of discourse on reddit didn't exist 10+ years ago. it happened only after the site because a household name.

[–] mabd@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Maybe it's silly, but i love that I haven't seen a single one-word reply such as "*their".

EDIT: omg, what about those infinite threads of "this" or forced puns? Haven't seen those either (and I love bad puns, but those usually contributed very little)

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly agree, but I do think there's a certain sense of collective accomplishment when you pull off a 37-deep comment thread with lines from a song or whatever.

Also: This was a triumph.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm making a note here: Huge Success!

[–] sotolf@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.

[–] FakeJake@fr3diver.se 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DuckCake@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We do what we must, because we can!

[–] benkinder@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] passthepotato@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except the ones who are dead.

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[–] BendyBee@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

;) Here Here!

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago
[–] Xperr7@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Could 100% tell it was going to hell the past while, knew it was mainstream for several years now, ever since I started hearing radio hosts talk about Reddit. However, a few months ago I was helping my mom with something, and I glanced at her phone to see Reddit open. That's when I thought "Oh. Reddit's over".

[–] polygon@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reading those comments in the threads OP posted reminded me how childish and toxic Reddit is. I haven't touched Reddit since this whole thing began and I've really been enjoying my time here on kbin. People actually communicate here. Those threads are typical Reddit downvote dog piling bullshit. It's so stark to me now after being away from it for awhile.

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[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I suspect in 8 days we will have better apps than Reddit does.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's also a bit bothersome if you're there. The people who stay are probably aware of the alternatives, but also don't feel like moving, so people going over and trying to get them to join Kbin/Lemmy are the equivalent of people asking you to join the Church on the street. Having the alternate community on the sidebar, or if the sub shuts down is fine, but probably not a good idea to shove things into people's faces.

You're already aware that the Church exists, and the advertising is not going to make them want to join it any time soon. If anything quite the opposite, or it'll make them want to cause trouble just out of spite.

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[–] Calcharger@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All the polite people are already here, lol

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[–] bozo@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Your intentions are good, but to be fair to the reddit crowd, the way your post was written reads a lot like an advertisement. Trying to convince others like this is typically unproductive - people will just go to wherever the content is. It's up to all of us to generate that content and give them a reason to migrate out of their comfort zone.

You should just start up a magazine yourself if you want one to exist, even if you've never moderated before. It's not that big a deal at this early stage and if it grows big enough, you can always hand it off to someone else.

[–] XxTriviumxX@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

i didn't know i could give the magazine over to someone else.. sweet!
And yeah... after a while it felt a little like i was a jehovah's witness knocking at their door at 6 am.

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[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It seems like the only people left on reddit will be jerks and trolls which is fine by me. You are in the right place ignore the haters.

[–] ProdSlash@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Pretty much. Like Twitter, the leadership is forcing a distillation of the userbase into the worst of the worst. Like 4chan, brought to you by Condé Nast. Going to be fun to watch from our nice balcony over here.

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[–] spider@vlemmy.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comment says it all:

I don't know what quite a lot of those words mean, and I don't wish to learn.

Why would we want people like that over here?

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[–] CoffeeBlood91@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's become a divide.

Pirates are more likely to end up on Lemmy, while streamers are more likely to remain on Reddit.

What I am saying is there are people who don't care and will give their money and attention to easy to learn, and easy to consume services.

While the other people refuse to feed into corporate greed, and seek frugal affairs which require a little more time and patience.

Unfornately as I have been witnessing there are so many people who continue to use Reddit, and will always use Reddit. These are the people who probably started using Reddit within the past 5 years, and were unaware of third party apps.

The only Reddit they know is new Reddit, and Reddit through the app. Often these people will happily pay a monthly fee for no ads and premium features.

The long term users are the ones that have seen it through its stages, we remember when the upvotes and downvotes were accurate, and were instantly visible, we remember when there were less rules for posting, less bots, and accurate karma points on posts.

Now it's all rigged, and AI driven.

The people who see through it, and want to get their voice back, and a sense of genuine community are the ones that end up on here.

Anyone who still continues to use Reddit I have less respect for, especially if they are aware of the alternatives.

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[–] xhyrox@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You’re not alone, I tried to do the same thing in a hardcore/emo band sub and i got lots of hate and a suicide watch automated email from Reddit, what the fuck is wrong with people?

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[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Holy. The people in comments of those posts are completely insufferable. I haven't seen this much concentrated idiocy in one place in a while, and I've been on reddit for close to a decade.

Don't pay attention to these pricks, OP. All the interesting people are leaving reddit even now, and all that's left are the wretches who made that site a terrible place to be even long before the API controversy. It's not worth even trying to invite these people here. They'd only make the fediverse worse with their presence.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah it actually makes me feel like there's some astroturf going on. The "reddit defense" backlash seemed to start very suddenly, some while after spez's comments about how the blackout wasn't hurting them got popularized and people started renewing the subreddit blackouts. Almost everyone seemed at least tenatively supportive up to that point, then suddenly these waves of hardcore "reddit did nothing wrong, won't someone PLEASE think of the profits! Everything's fine, just keep posting here, fellow users!" HailCorporate-style comments start pouring into every subreddit and every thread talking about the issue seemingly simultaneously. These is something that seems deeply disingenuous about all of those comments.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah I saw the thread where dndnext announced they were gonna do the John Oliver thing and everyone in the comments was complaining. Even though the poll showed overwhelming support. Almost like the comments were being astroturfed

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[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t realize how bad the mobile Reddit site was. The one or two comments I could see were bad enough, but man the whole page was a mess. I couldn’t even look at the last link because it just required the app.

[–] XxTriviumxX@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

try browsing them by raplacing "reddit" with "safereddit" in your url ;) no need for apps!

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[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To be fair, that one guy was right to laugh.

It's one thing to invite people, that's good! It's really bad to ask them to do some really heavy lifting for something they barely know anything about though.

[–] XxTriviumxX@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

i thought there might have been someone in the subreddit that is also a kbin/lemmy user that could do create magazine

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People hated linux...

Until they realized it works.

And yet, there is still a guy on reddit that posts patently false rage bait about how linux can't do shit in subs like pcmr, and sometimes their lies even makes it to the frontpage.

It's just how things that are too different, even if better, get treated by some.

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[–] nostalgicgamerz@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

You tried to rationalize with CinemasacreTruthers.

That was your mistake

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

People generally are lazy and will want stuff that works, so inertia is a thing.

And asked if someone would be interested to create maintain a magazine/community that don't exist here. I got shit over...

And yes, you will get shit because you're asking people without an investment in the new platform to do work for free. That's not going to happen, regardless of the situation.

[–] Scope@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"how much does it pay? $$$" lol.

What a sad iteration of the Internet we live in. Part of me wants to roll my eyes and call that person a stupid kid. Another part of me knows it actually pays to be vigilant to shit like this, because reddit is absolutely rampant with bots and trolls. Sad that a person can't just spread the word about something they enjoy anymore without there being some mundane - yet still somehow nefarious, ulterior motive behind it.

[–] deaconblue@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

And how much does reddit pay?

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

We'll pay you 10x what Reddit is currently paying mods!!

[–] ANuStart@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HAHHAA NERD!

I love you though.

[–] XxTriviumxX@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

love you, too.

[–] Pilirin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

@XxTriviumxX i'v left automod configured to remove most spam, anything that gets reported more than 5 times, and post a stickied comment onto every post telling people where the mod team has gone. those comments get downvoted to oblivion, and i give absolutely zero fucks whatsoever. my job is done.

[–] Inamin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

just create your communities here in the fediverse. If they get populated, then you will be able to assign mods from your userbase. You're preaching to the un-convertible over there now.

[–] XxTriviumxX@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] tal@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Well, a considerable portion of his comments seem to be insulting people, so that's probably about par for the course.

[–] fuocoebenzina@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Honestly they don't sound like great people, or particularly intellectually curious - you explained it well, there's no reason for them to be caricaturing it as nerd stuff. Especially since they're on Reddit. I wouldn't worry about them.

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[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Tbf, being toxic is kind of the point of Always Sunny, even though the creator are really good wholesome people.

[–] brownpaperbag@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, those IASIP responses are pretty on brand but thanks for letting me know the community exists!

[–] XxTriviumxX@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the baby dick comment cracked me up though

community is up here:
https://kbin.social/m/iasip@lemmy.ml

[–] brownpaperbag@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I was expecting a "shut up, bird" or two in the Reddit comments but baby dick is a classic. Thanks for linking it!

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