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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

:raises hand: Gen-X too please!

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

I am interested in that new Roadhouse NGL.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can confirm. I'm 38 and I cringe every time I see a remake of some 20 or 30 year old movie or show. Come up with something original instead of going for the low hanging fruit. Also, use less CGI and more practical effects.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Too much bad cgi now days.

Look at top gun 2. I wasn’t excited at all to see it. I left the theater pumped and saw it four more times.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I thought I was going to hate it. It seemed like a cash grab. I’m not a huge fan on Tom cruise. It was just a damn good movie. Movies have forgot they’re supposed to be entertaining. It was entertaining.

[–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Top Gun 2 was full of CGI...

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But also a ton of practical effects. The CGI was mostly there to help the practical effects, the movie wasn't full on CGI like Avatar.

[–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

None of the planes shown in the film ever left the ground.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 3 points 8 months ago

Fairly long set of 4 videos, but this is an interesting flip side of “less CGI” discussion: https://youtu.be/7ttG90raCNo

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago

Uh, most reasonable people want this. Extended Universes are so early 2010's.

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 12 points 8 months ago

Right now I'd settle for shit I like not being wiped from existence to make the line go up slightly more with some convoluted Producers math bullshit.

[–] three20three@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Matt Damon explains how the lack of DVD sales changed what movie studios will greenlight

https://youtu.be/Jx8F5Imd8A8

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's probably safe to say that everyone does but when the studios are putting down a lot of cash for The Next Big Thing, they tend to want a safer bet like a sequel or remake or part of a franchise. This doesn't seem to be working as well as it was and it is increasingly looking like spending smaller amounts spread around could generate a big hit too but that does need them to be able to spot good ideas and they don't have a great track record on this.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, they'll be looking at things like rebel moon as an excuse not to try new things.

[–] explore_broaden@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know anything about rebel moon, what happened with it that would do this?

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Zack Snyder happened. And he'll keep on happening until everyone learns their lesson.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

The conclusion to take from Rebel Moon is to stop giving Zack Snyder money. At least stop him from directing things he wrote.

[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can we get Triplets first?

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

No. Sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. I was quite intrigued by Beetlejuice² but if giving that up is the price we have to pay, so be it.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Here's what people want... Good movies and good television. Yeah, originality is great, but remakes can be good too.

I liked the remake of Infernal Affairs (The Departed), Scarface, Cape Fear, Ocean's 11, The Fly, King Kong (Peter Jackson), True Grit, Judge Dread, and The Wizard of Oz (1939) was also a remake. The Fall Guy looks good too.

For TV, there's Battlestar Galactica, Westworld, Cobra Kai, Sabrina, and Wednesday, though different, could fit in there as it's still based on another property.

What people don't want are obvious cash grabs.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Everyone says they want a fully new IP and blah blah blah

But how many people then immediately jump to say that they'll wait for season 2 (or 5, because god forbid it gets cancelled) before they watch? Or that they'll wait for it to hit netflix (who actually ARE doing a lot of new IPs).

Like, I fully admit I am part of the problem. I slept on Warrior until Season 2 had aired and then realized it was literally my dream show (a show with really good choreography, amazing action actors, gratuitous nudity, a really nuanced approach to racism against Asian Americans, and all based on the philosophies of Bruce Lee) and now have to acknowledge it is never getting a Season 4

But also? You need something REAL good to get me to give a damn about a new movie. Either a ridiculously solid actor (still gonna watch the new Gareth Edwards movie even if I hear it is mid) or for it to be tied to something I know I like.

[–] BoisZoi@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

shocked.jpeg

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Have we gone through all the basic stories? It seems like a movie can't just be a movie anymore. It's needs to be everything everywhere all at once.

[–] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Not even remakes.. Remakes of remakes made 3 years before The latest remake

What the fuck is this article smokin? Is it AI?

...of these young kids,

Ok goddamnit, enough with the millennials r kids n shit. Im 45. Millennials are adults. Adults! Kiss my pucker, fucker

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

I wonder how many times in my life I will get to see Batman's parents die? Or James bond play poker? Or star wars get ruined?

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Say it to a survey but then when the movies come out the dollars come in for the remakes and reboots

Kind of like 90% of Americans disapproving of Congress but then votes for their incumbents.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

There's also the financial risk to be considered. A mainstream film release from 1970 might have been produced by fifty people, cast and crew combined. The crew for Barbie as per the image above was close to a thousand people. That's expensive. Have to put in twenty times the ante to be in the game, and all the payoff is in established properties that you already know have an audience? It would be foolish to do otherwise.

Like you say, if people actual did what they said they wanted, and go and take a punt on the new stuff rather than going to watch the same-old, then it would be different. But you can't complain about it when that's what you spend your money on.

[–] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Seems like one of those things everyone would say in the abstract, particularly on a survey. Then when the studios go for safe projects and the thing they remake is among someone's personal favorites they'll watch it anyway, validating the strategy.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

*Looks at Millenials and Gen-Z queuing round the block for the latest mediocre Marvel horseshit*

You can say you want one thing, but you'll cheerfully pay for whatever the adverts in your tiktoks tell you to buy.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

And adaptions that adhere to pre existing lore... Witcher, Halo I am looking at you

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Movie studios pay unimaginable money to learn what people want. It is a constant, year round expenditure for them. Their information and data suggests that while a vocal minority may be fed up with remakes, people still fervently buy them, have very short memories and seem to go bananas for any shred of nostalgia bait.

Remakes are as a result an incredibly safe bet, they are less expensive and less risk, which in financial terms is a green light. Until they aren't either of those things and they carry more risk, they will continue to be pedalled out.

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

False. They pay unimaginable money to find out the least amount of money required to make the most profit. Which means reducing risks on unknown properties, repeating trends that have been successful. So original stories represent unknown risk even if it’s something the public wants.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

If you ask people what they want it makes sense you'll get a lot a sequels.

Like if you asked people what they wanted 200 years ago they would say faster horses, not a car.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Too bad because Boomers and X love that shit.

Edit: Wah wah boo hoo your generation is middle aged and buying stuff little old you doesn't like because you're extra special. Has no baring on reality. Gen X is America's largest consumer group. Get over it.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

X love that shit.

No we don't.

It's just the only option the risk-averse Hollywood machine is willing to offer us.

[–] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are remakes ever for a new generation? Aren't they just for the original people who liked it, and they hope a new gen will like the new content,, but they never do?

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Are remakes ever for a new generataion?

"Modern audience"

[–] spez_@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well as long as profits are made there going to keep on churning out the same old.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then good thing superhero movies are flopping and something like the biopic of a physicist made a ton of money.

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Superhero movies are not flopping, dead on arrival capeshit schlock that no one asked for in the first place is flopping. Aquaman made 400 million dollars on a 200 million budget just in December.

The "biopic of a physicist" was made by one of the most recognizable filmmakers in Hollywood and was further propelled forward by a once in a generation hype campaign that will be impossible to repeat, although there's no doubt in my mind that studios will try nonetheless.

[–] koberulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Making double your budget is basically breaking even, once you account for marketing costs and the cinema's cut of the take.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In terms of movies the worst offenders are remakes of foreign films for the US audience. Like the Oldboy remake was completely unnecessary and it changed key parts of the story. Funny Games was just a shot-for-shot remake of the original one!

Personally I'm finding the video game remakes even more egregious than the movie/tv remakes. I think it's a side effect of the modern day development costs being so out of control but as long as people keep doube - and triple - dipping on games this is going to continue.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"The Girl with the dragon tattoo" and "a man called Otto" are both good remakes.

So I don't agree at all. A remake isn't bad in itself.

[–] jamyang@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

What was that saying - " Exceptions prove the rule"?