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[–] dill@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Governments don't care, corporations do

The governments end up caring because the corporations light a fire under their asses to do something about it (with phat $$$ of course)

[–] rysiek@szmer.info 12 points 1 year ago

The concept of copyright did not exist for most of human history. The current shape of copyright and paying for culture is antiquated and puts creators at a disadvantage.

Instead of pondering if anyone can stop "digital piracy", we should be pondering how to reform the copyright regime such that sharing culture is not considered "piracy", and such that artists get paid. Rip out the middle-men.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Very unlikely I think, especially nowadays with so many tools at our disposal such as VPNs, E2EE, and the usual Lernaean Hydra of mirror sites.

Not to mention, western govts that block piracy sites often don't bother going after non-english ones (looking at you Ru🔴🟢🔵 dot org) and a simple translator makes that accessible

Edit: remove link

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I love that tracker. So much flac.

[–] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Not entirely, when there's a will there's a way. I posted here a while ago about Cuba's weekly package system but snuffing out a sneakernet would be quite difficult.

Another example would be the thousands of USB sticks that are smuggled into North Korea.

Besides physically moving data there's always new networks and methods that spring up.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Not entirely. Governments aren't incredibility interested in eliminating it, they know the solutions would be intrusive. It's going to be a long game of whack-a-mole.

[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Completely so nobody ever does it? No, there is no way. Though I think the goal is set more realistically like that to make it inconvenient and push it out of the mainstream as much as they can, which seems to be going alright.

[–] Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Yes once all our legacy tech/entertainment is replaced with whatever the few corporations create in 2100+

[–] gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Governments could, but is not worth the hassle. It's going the North Korea way and it has more disadvantages than advantages.

You can't stop complete piracy without restricting the tools of the piracy, which is computers. Even before internet was mainstream piracy tool, there was piracy (cd's and stuff).

[–] Johanno@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Not as long there are countries that don't care about Copyright shit.

[–] DreamySweet@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, there are too many pirates. There will always be a few smart enough to get around whatever new security they create.

[–] Bulldozer0781@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I think you can see with things like Denuvo that anti-piracy techniques can kinda work. They don't stop people from eventually getting it, but with how inpatient many people are, having to wait 14 days for the new Harry Potter crack can be quite effective to stifle piracy. My hope is that crackers continue to learn methods like Denuvo uses to be able to better crack them.

[–] DownloadMode@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What it comes down to, is we all have to work together and do our part, if we want to see piracy keep going. It is a living, breathing, group effort. We cannot rely on a few small groups of people to do all the work, like with RARBG, or piracy will die.

Seed your torrents long. Upload fresh content to as many trackers/places as possible. Don't just take. Give to your shipmates too. Give back to the communities.

It is up to you (and me and everyone) to do uploading, sharing, and keeping piracy living. You must give back or piracy dies. We cannot keep expecting others to do everything. If we all give a little, piracy lasts forever and can never die. Carry the torch. When the old guys retire or pass on (yes old pirates literally die), then it is your turn to fulfill the giving to the young pirates. Teach. Seed. Upload. Give. And there's always enough to go around. 🦜🏴‍☠️

[–] Capt_Brunch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

No more than we could stop government corruption.

[–] MrComradeTaco@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think so

[–] carson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think only an extremely authoritarian government could, who doesn't care about what the citizens think....if that was what they cared to stop.

Excluding that, stopping piracy wouldn't really be something popular with voters and probably would be very expensive to enforce. i.e look how SOPA and PIPA went down in the US.

[–] TootSweet@latte.isnot.coffee 2 points 1 year ago

There ar enough legal gray areas still that it would take a lot of work to even figure out what "all digital piracy" even means. For instance, I don't think it's been tested in court yet whether the copying into RAM that your OS does when you run a program runs afoul of copyright.

Though, corporations routinely violate the terms of the GPL by distributing binaries without providing any way to get the source code. I'd say that qualifies as "digital piracy." So I suppose if the government did try to stop all digital piracy, it wouldn't be all bad.

[–] ElZoido@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's been millenia and governments haven't been able to stop traditional piracy yet. I doubt digital piracy, which has much lower stakes involved, will be curbed any time soon.

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