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Reddit Migration

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Interested in getting a feel for what people may be likely to do IF reddit reverses their decision regarding API access, or reduces access fees to a reasonable level and 3rd party apps remain sustainable.

While I know the chances of this are extreeeemely slim, until 1st July there is an ever so slight chance this could still happen.

From my perspective, the community harm is done, and those who have left prior to July 1 have left due to principles, not because their app stopped working. As such, I'd be inclined to think most of those migrators would stay here in the fediverse.

But would we see a mass exodus back to reddit if the changes were undone? It's easy to say no, but if it went back to operations as relatively normal, it may be easy to justify going back for some users.

I'd like to think I wouldn't go back. I've deleted content and account from reddit. I'll be happy here so long as there is enough userbase for some discussion.

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[–] matricaria@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I left Reddit for good, I deleted my account. Maybe I will occasionally check Libreddit/Teddit if that will be possible. But my Reddit feed became pretty boring in the last weeks, many people left, many subs are still protesting.

Yet I’m not fully convinced that Kbin/Lemmy is the answer for me. I’m questioning if the whole social news aggregator is what I want.

Currently I’m mostly reading Hacker News.

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I like the fediverse but the centralised nature of reddit is much less confusing. Really I would probably see where the communities are and stay wherever is most convenient. If Reddit did undo their changes then the chances are a few communities might move back to reddit or stay there, and the app devs may also cancel plans to make other fediverse clients, so it would be a tricky decision for me in my mind.

Reddit is the community more than it is the site in my mind.

[–] batterysoup@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Good question. I only just created an account, but I don't know if I'd go back. I used sync for reddit (apparently being ported for lemmy) so if I can't keep using that I wouldn't browse reddit on my mobile.

I just hope some of the gaming communities and their users migrate over as well a lot of the tech support and branded subreddits - googling "X vacuum issue reddit" or "dragon scale farming botw reddit" will be hard to transition from. I don't think this will happen overnight.

Likewise, I think there needs to be a better way of handling duplicated federated instances as I can see this being annoying / a confusing turn off for new users.

[–] smokinjoe@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'll probably go back from time to time to:

  1. Demonstrate that them reversing course wasn't for naught
  2. Steal content to post here to help foster communities/magazines until the next idiotic decision that drives users away

Ultimately, this is my new home. But I'm not against swiping content to furnish it with.

[–] 667@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I really have no choice. I’m primarily a mobile user via 3rd party app because their native app sucks in so many different ways. In fact, I replied to this very thread from my phone.

When the API gets cut off, I get cut off because I don’t—nor won’t—live in front of my computer.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll live here, but I might poke into Reddit for the more obscure communities that can’t really survive a migration. Reddit knows what it wants and even if it fails this time, they’ll get sly with it and push more and more until they’re satisfied.

The biggest news is going to make it over here at this point anyway.

[–] Steelmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I honestly would go back to reddit for the nitch communities that will have a hard time re building e.g titanfall, beans in things, ect. But this will definitely be my new home and I would try and push for those communities to migrate here.

[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

After Steve's behavior and treatment of the mods and developers, I wouldn't go back if they paid me. Even in the best case scenarios, they can't undo the damage that's already been done.

[–] Thaliff@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The same thing I did when Wotc tried to invalidate the ogl, walk away from any future support of their products and find better options, which is why I'm here.

[–] Tywele@dataterm.digital 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't delete my reddit account so I still have the possibility to easily return but I don't think I will unless the community here in the Threadiverse dies down or something which I don't think will happen.

[–] stackPeek@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The way they handle made me sick. Reddit will never be the same again for me.

[–] PotjiePig@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Personally, I'm loving Lemmy for what it is and I'm here for the long haul whether or not I continue to scroll Reddit on occasion.

If they roll back, it will be temporary until they fix their app. But this is happening. Either way. If they roll back and start this mess all over again then Lemmy will get a fresh influx of users in a few months which would be fantastic as it will give the communities time to settle in and apps to develop before then. (Sync has already announced it will be developing for Lemmy going forward). If they don't roll back, then Lemmy will get a second boost in a few weeks and the developer of Sync can continue uninterrupted.

Either way its a win for Lemmy, but I imagine at this point Reddit's best move is to stick to their guns and become what they want to become. Good for them. I don't really care .

[–] nero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m having fun on here and the apps (memmy for me) have been working great so far, so there’s practically no difference for me.

[–] MrMeatballGuy@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago

Nice try spez, I'm not telling you what my plans are

[–] mub@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Once bitten*, twice shy.

*Ok, many times bitten, but that doesn't roll off the tonge as well.

[–] islandmonkeee@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think I would be happy reading stuff on Reddit again but apart from that, my participation is over.

[–] BBKuma@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I might end up on Reddit when googling for answers but I wouldn't go back full time. It has been very clear from the past few days that spez and co are not to be trusted. I like kbin a lot, I feel adults are having actual mature conversations instead of the insult matches that happen on Reddit. And I have contributed here more than I have in the 10 years of using Reddit.

[–] Mika7150@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

my return to Reddit has become conditional on spez being completely outed from any position at the company

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

oh that boat has so sailed.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

In my case? Nothing. They thoroughly burned that bridge. They would have to rebuild it, and merely returning to the status quo after showing their hand isn't enough.

[–] 34@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I've already moved on, period.

[–] SirD_P@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

why drag up the past .. the cesspool that is reddit cannot be trusted ever again and I for one will not be returning. fuck u/spez

[–] jinno@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

To be perfectly honest - I’ll likely stay here for content that typically ends up in large subs. Programming, World News, Politics, Ask _? That’s pretty well covered here.

But I’d use my third party app of choice to check in on subs that haven’t really taken off here yet. I haven’t had a decent conversation about One Piece yet on this platform. The Colts magazine equally dead. Game specific magazines and conversations are not very active here.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit needs more revenue. They're not profitable, and never have been. The only means they have for getting that revenue is manipulating me so that I watch more ads, or selling my content to others without my explicit consent.

Which means I'm done with Reddit, and for-profit social media, forever.

[–] doleo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Nivekk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real win is having a viable place that people can go instead of Reddit, to force Reddit to compete and improve itself in general. (or have a place people can go if Reddit ultimately shuts down)

To that end, I would stay right here, and then someday if Reddit improves enough, maybe consider using both.

[–] ElZoido@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No Reddit has been getting worse for the past few years already. If they were to reverse the decision now, it would probably only be temporary anyway, until they find a new way to increase monetization.

[–] beijingb33f@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I just landed here, so time will tell. I think a lot of damage has been done and most of it by the toxic way spez has dealt with this. He’d have to step down to really make progress in healing things. I like the idea of a decentralized community that one person can’t fuck up. So, I want to give this an honest try.

[–] DanDeBroccoli@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I deleted my account on Reddit because their handling of the situation didn’t really inspire confidence in the site’s future 🤷‍♂️I won’t be going back regardless.

Fediverse is a neat network model of integration of communities in the same way that integration happens in real life.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Can Reddit also un-slander the 3pa devs?

[–] NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a user, not a customer. The changes only affect me because I use a piece of software. Regardless of what the company chooses to do, I'm not going to change that. I'll use the site, block the ads & scripts, and continue as normal.

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[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 1 points 1 year ago

I was always all-in on the fediverse. Reddit died a long time ago for me.

[–] jpatches@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm new enough to not have experienced old.reddit so most of my experiences are from the new interface on computer. With that said, the new reddit is crap.

  1. It is sooooo slow. My computer isn't lacking by any means, but infinity on my old pixel phone is still much faster. I don't understand how this is even possible.

  2. The comment box is broken. I can't tell how many times the comment box malfunctioned either in formatting or in other ways after I copy pasted text into it. If copying text makes things buggy, then something is wrong. Not to mention that less frequently, I've clicked on submit after writing a long post just to have it vanish into thin air.

  3. I'm with the moderators for the API issue, but my experiences with moderation there wasn't the best. Inconsistency between different mods, etc. That is a thankless job for sure, and the same problems could come up here or lemmy or anywhere else as the communities grow, but here's hoping that we learn from past mistakes.

[–] Tarlia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The comment box is broken. I can't tell how many times the comment box malfunctioned either in formatting or in other ways after I copy pasted text into it. If copying text makes things buggy, then something is wrong.

This annoyed me to no end. I often just turned off the fancy pants editor.

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

new enough to not have experienced old.reddit

But old Reddit is still around!? Just go to old.reddit.com or change the setting to make it your default.

[–] NomadJones@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They will get rid of old.reddit sooner or later to force you to look at their ads and thus make the platform more appealing to IPO investors who will see a higher revenue stream from ads. That will be the last straw for me. Meanwhile, I'm getting used to the Fediverse, trying to participate here more, and reducing my dependence on Reddit.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is dead to me and my account is long gone. Everything I lost from reddit over the years is here. No need to go back.

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Im staying away from Reddit, the fediverse is really intriguing and I want to see it succeed im shredding my Reddit account on the 30th or after the reports of Reddit undeleting accounts dies down I just want to be able to keep a pic of the profile page for memory maybe post some sort of "Snoo" head count somewhere for people to show the accounts that got deleted during the migration

Edit: dont enjoy the term snoo but it gets a point across just like death by snoo snoo

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