Many people volunteered to moderate reddit for the benefit their community. The company screwed over the community and the CEO was compensated $193mil last year Source
Why would anyone stay for free?
this post was submitted on 29 Feb 2024
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Why would anyone stay for free?
The communities and content maybe. Lemmy is very lacking in both areas.
Both community and content are created by people. If people come here there will be community and there will be content.
That will be very hard to coordinate between all users of a community and all communities that a specific person likes.
Ok doomer
I'm just explaining why more communities haven't migrated.
The problem is, those AI companies can do the same thing to lemmy, and much easier anyway. We won't get paid shit for our words.
Maybe it’s time to move away from fact based discussion and more towards stupid puns and satire.
Listen here, you little shit--
OK, so we should all just start prefixing every comment with marker meme text for the bots to learn (and humans to filter out). The bots pick up some truly weird patterns and go insane.
More insidiously, have an LLM rephrase all comments between posting and display. Looks human-enough, should still contain our salient points - and plays merry hell with future training efforts.
This is the way.
Given that there have been signs of the ML industry running out of quality data, there’s a good chance that development will begin to show down. Nowadays, the data is nearly always contaminated with AI generated trash, which means you shouldn’t use it to train a new model. Eventually, we’ll hit a point where it’s nearly impossible to improve the model because you just can’t find the right kind of data for it.
UGA UBUGA DHDB UGA BUGA
Nah, I'd join random gaming discords over that future.
60,000? Reddit used to be a hub, I had subs with many times that number of users. You really fucked up, Steve, but at least you're still in your comfort zone with that.
60k is the number of mods.
The article refers to "content that is curated and maintained by an army of more than 60,000 volunteers, the Redditors", which tbf is quite weird phrasing. But the 60k "volunteer mods" number has been doing the rounds everywhere for the last few months. I wonder if they misunderstood a figure they saw and mistook it for the total number of users. But it also refers to "a staggering 73 million daily active users", which I wouldn't really say is a staggering number in $current_year when other social networks have ~~orders of magnitude~~ a lot more. "staggering" is just an odd word to choose.
The article seems kind of oddly phrased in general to be honest. Pretty clearly written by someone who is unfamilliar with what reddit is.
But it also refers to “a staggering 73 million daily active users”, which I wouldn’t really say is a staggering number in $current_year when other social networks have orders of magnitude more.
Well, there's definitely no social network with "orders of magnitude more"... Even if that's only 2 orders of magnitude, that's almost the entire population of the world.
So this made me curious and best I can find there seem to be only a few social media platforms that even have 1 order of magnitude more:
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Facebook, with 2.1 billion DAU as of Q4 2023
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Youtube, which has 2.7 billion monthly active users (I'm speculating that it has at least 730 million DAU based on that number)
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WhatsApp (which wikipedia notes has 2 billion MAU and had 1 billion DAU when it had 1.3 billion MAU, so presumably it's around 1.5 billion DAU now)
DAU is a pretty rare statistic to find reported on, so it's hard to say if there are others.
Well, there’s definitely no social network with “orders of magnitude more”
By your numbers (let order of magnitude == oom):
Reddit: 73M
Reddit + 1 oom: 730M
Reddit + 2 oom: 7.3B
Facebook: 2.1B
So 73M to 7.3B is 2 oom greater, and 7.3B is the same oom as 2.1B, thus there is at least one social network orders of magnitude greater than reddit.
Have I got anything wrong here?
Okay so I'm just going to open myself up to ridicule here; my understanding of comparing numbers using orders of magnitude might be wrong, and if it is, I would like to know that. So on that note, I don't think that's how OOM comparisons work, and I'd be very interested to be corrected if I'm wrong.
You could accurately say that 2.1B has 2 more orders of magnitude than 73M does (7 vs. 9), but I believe when you're directly comparing two numbers and saying that one is "x orders of magnitude larger than y", that doesn't work. You wouldn't say that 10 is an order of magnitude larger than 9... that would be very misleading; 90 is an order of magnitude larger than 9. In fact, that claim would be off by... approximately an order of magnitude.
1 order of magnitude larger than 73M is 730M; 2 orders of magnitude larger is 7.3B, as you note, but... wouldn't you look upward to say a number is in the same order of magnitude, not lower? So since 2.1B is approximately 29x larger than 73M, it would be 1 OOM larger (and only becomes 2 OOM larger at 100x)?
To look at it another way:
73M x 10^1 is a lot closer to the correct value than 73M x 10^2, so even if the correct method is to round to the nearest OOM, it wouldn't beecome 2 OOM larger until 73M x 50, or 3.650B.
Again, it's quite possible that my understanding is incorrect because... this doesn't come up in every day conversation much, so if I'm wrong, please correct me!
In the context odds are that Ace is using "orders of magnitude more" simply to convey "multiple times more", or "a fuckload more"
That said I always understood orders of magnitude as log rounded to the units:
- log₁₀(73M) = 7.86
- log₁₀(2.1B) = 9.32
- 9.32 - 7.86 = 1.45 ≃ 1
If you're rounding it to a single digit you'd get 1, or one order of magnitude. It isn't too far from being rounded to 2, if Reddit shrinks back to 66M.
Don't discount the possibility of it being a shill for their sham ipo.
So AI is taking away having to answer the same questions over and over again for lazy people, are we complaining?
To me it brings about the question of, "What is the shelf life of answers?" Like if reddit had existed 100 years ago, how do you go about "cleaning" a model of deprecated information? Or maybe you don't? I know very little about LLMs, just a thought.