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[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how bad this pokemicrotransaction hell will be

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Says 2 free packs a day, but thats proably while its mining all your data and killing your battery.

I am interested only because of the quick battle system, but I know its prolly fucked on the cost to actually compete.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Plus the 2 free packs are essentially nothing but advertising for the paid packs.

[–] djidane535@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think so. The TCG online has no micro-transactions. You have to buy real packs to get digital packs in the game.

I believe this new game will just be advertisement for the TCG by itself, without the F2P stuff we are used to in other games. Giving people this app for free, and expect to convert some of them into TCG players who will buy real packs.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's a loot box with extra steps. You get loot box physical trash and loot box digital trash. TCGs are the original microtransactions.

Now, the extra steps are a small barrier that makes it slightly less bad, because you have to physically go to a store or at least order and wait to get them. But it's not that much less bad.

[–] djidane535@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Depends how you see it. TCG is by itself a lootbox game, but with physical cards instead. However, it does not seem that the Pokemon Company wants to turn its TCG game into a digital business, but instead use those apps as promotional products for TCG. Personally, I think it’s a much better model than the one pursued by everyone else. The apps are more a bonus / promotional stuff than a real thing. For this particular app, I won’t be surprised if there is no other way to get packs than waiting for the next day.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The friction of a physical purchase is relevant.

But all the rest of the slot machine mechanics in terms of dopamine juicing sounds and animations are still there, and they're the biggest issue.

[–] djidane535@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes but if it’s free, I don’t think it’s a big issue. Very different than allowing people to buy lottery tickets (it could be the case, but I don’t think so).

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago

It's decidedly not free if you have to buy physical products to get it.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago

You have to buy real packs to get digital packs in the game

Macrotransactions

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm a bit torn on this. On the one hand, it seems like it would be fun to battle friends, and I understand there's a built in design for the "collectible" aspect that I really can't be upset about.

On the other hand, the entire ad was about the "shiney collectibles" aspect, and the actual utility of those cards (ie, battling) was barely an afterthought. That doesn't say great things about their priorities here.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago

On the other hand, the entire ad was about the "shiney collectibles" aspect, and the actual utility of those cards (ie, battling) was barely an afterthought. That doesn't say great things about their priorities here

I mean I know they said battling would be streamlined, but realistically the entire format is basically already laid out for them, since it's literally just taking the tcg and making it digital. As a result, there's very little to actually show off on the front of gameplay, especially considering that everyone who cares probably already plays tcg online anyway.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I still hold the GBC Pokemon TCG game as one of my all time favourite games.

Consider me immensely disappointed.