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[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

CBS dude rode on it and did an interview with the owner.

So many red flags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o&feature=youtu.be

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Built with shit from Home Depot, controlled with a literal Logitech game controller, construction pipes as ballast... holy fuck, why would anybody agree to go 3.7km below the surface of the ocean in that deathtrap?

[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Imagine paying $250k and the pilot pulls out the player 2 controller

[–] SevenSwell@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong.

[–] leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

And it's easily replaceable in case of failure. Of all the design shortcuts this one isn't bad.

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[–] Chrisosaur@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago

Hope the pilot tried ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ start

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel.

“Steel is real.”

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[–] demvoter@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Wow, that is super sketchy. Now I am not at all surprised this happened. Hope that company has a shit ton of insurance.

[–] xxxfroggyxxx@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, I’ve seen so many Scientific deepwater vehicles that are thethered to the ship in some form. Why isn’t this thing hooked up to a cran yhat can get it back up if someone fails? I’d think passenger vessels should pass more rigurous safety standards than that.

Are they liable btw or is the “international waters” situation doing them any favor?

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[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I find it strangely hard to care about the fate of a handful of multimillionaire tourists when hundreds of refugees died last week due to the indifference of the Greek authorities - and the media barely noticed.

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[–] ndr@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s sort of… poetic in a messed up way.

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[–] great_meh@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

What I dont get is that one of the passengers was a billionaire. He could have built himself the fanciest and safest vessel for a few Million Dollars with a whole naval operation attached. Of course thats a lot more than 250K but still nothing for a billionaire. These people are so out of touch and cheap its insane.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It goes to prove that billionaires are just as gullible as the rest of the people, all they had was just money and assets, it doesn't grant them wisdom or intelligence.

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That much money must give you incredible hubris: up until this point you’ve never had a problem that money couldn’t fix (or ease) for you.

Unfortunately, you can’t bribe physics.

[–] the_itsb@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

I've never thought about it this way before. You've given me empathy for billionaires; thanks, I hate it!

[–] not_amm@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why do that when you can cut costs, and how would it be possible for them not to ensure their safety? I don't think they cut costs like the clients, I don't think they would put lites at risk just for the sake of some extra dollars to the pocket of the CEO. /s

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[–] TheLoneMinon@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

This shits going to keep happening as companies continue to rush commercialization of "Extreme" Travel.

[–] TheOtherJake@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

...officials are working to get a remotely operated vehicle that can reach a depth of 6,000 meters (about 20,000 feet) to the site as soon as possible.

The 5-person submersible, named Titan, is capable of diving 4,000 meters or 13,120 ft. “with a comfortable safety margin,” OceanGate said in its filing with the court.

but...after looking up on Wikipedia

...a wreck that lies over 12,000 feet (3,700 m) below the surface...

[–] neuropean@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they’re advertising the depth limit of the recovery vehicle, not claiming that the wreck is actually at 20,000 feet.

[–] TheOtherJake@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

They probably need quite a bit of margin too if the craft accidentally got lost in a deeper area

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Maybe they're concerned that it no-clipped through the sea bottom and wound up deeper than the Titanic's current location?

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It might be best practice to use a vessel rated for considerably deeper than you actually go, in case of some problem in the hull?

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And/or it's just a description of a particular vehicle they're bringing that was most convenient to get there quickly.

[–] Projectionist@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

It's not like they're going to say, "oh, don't bring THAT recovery vehicle, it can go TOO deep."

[–] Holos620@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Very wealthy people wasting a huge amount of society's resources to have mild fun doing something very risky then having to get rescued on the back of society at a high cost. I say let's enjoy watching them die.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

this is a very weird first comment to make and the subsequent comments neither look productive nor particularly on topic. let's save the thirsting for rich people blood for a topic where it's more warranted folks, please and thanks.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

But rich blood being spilled is the topic. They took a huge risk only to get more resources deployed to find them.

[–] Kitten@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry but saying you'd enjoy watching someone die under any circumstances is disgusting.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago

Regardless of one's opinion the super rich, the thing also has crew that are just there because they're paid to operate the thing, I doubt they make enough to buy tickets for this kind of thing themselves.

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[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

https://newrepublic.com/post/173802/missing-titanic-sub-faced-lawsuit-depths-safely-travel-oceangate

This adds to the picture of utter recklessness.

At the meeting Lochridge discovered why he had been denied access to the viewport information from the Engineering department—the viewport at the forward of the submersible was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate intended to take passengers down to depths of 4,000 meters. Lochridge learned that the viewport manufacturer would only certify to a depth of 1,300 meters due to experimental design of the viewport supplied by OceanGate, which was out of the Pressure Vessels for Human Occupancy (“PVHO”) standards. OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required depth of 4,000 meters.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

So they wanted to die. Got it.

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[–] SaintLunatic@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

According to the article there is a metal eating bacteria that’s eating the titanic? And it the wreckage might be gone in a few decades?

That’s incredible

[–] Pumpki@toast.ooo 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now they probably have a new submersible to munch on...

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even if I had a stupid amount of money, there's no way in hell I would pay someone to stuff me inside what seems to be an over-sized propane tank, then send me to depths where the water pressure is so extreme it will literally crush you.

Just...no.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I particularly like the part where this specific submersible can't ever be opened from the inside, because it gets bolted shut from outside.

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[–] intrnt@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

It has 96 hours of life support, I have faith.

[–] ZapBeebz@beehaw.org 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I am hopeful, but not necessarily optimistic...if it lost power and descended below crush depth, no amount of life support is bringing them back.

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[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Who even has the vessels that can go deep enough to rescue them? This is the stuff of nightmares

[–] kingofmadcows@startrek.website 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Gabe Newell, yes the owner of Valve/Steam, has an ocean research organization that owns a submarine designed to dive down to 10km, to some of the deepest parts of the ocean.

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