this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2024
218 points (85.4% liked)

linuxmemes

21281 readers
1968 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  •  

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't fork-bomb your computer.

    founded 1 year ago
    MODERATORS
     

    Disclaimer: I thought of this while using this command line. I actually think Celeste and Matrix are good and trans rights are human rights.

    Image description: [ First pannel; character turning his back on the Trans flag, Madeline from Celeste and the Matrix movie title screen : "I am not Trans". Second pannel; character hugging a box labeled 'gender': "I enjoy the gender I was assigned at birth." Third pannel; character typing on a laptop with the Arch Linux logo while wearing programming socks. A bubble shows the line on the screen : 'makepkg -cis'. The character says: "When I compile an AUR package, I clean install files, install the program, sync dependencies; in a single line." ]

    top 50 comments
    sorted by: hot top controversial new old
    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 86 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    makepkg -csi to make you feel like a detective who's installing the newly developed tool that'll crack the case.

    [–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    -sci because I enjoy SciFi

    [–] otter@lemmy.zip 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    And -sic because I want it as is!

    [–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

    as well as -isc since it's written in c

    [–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 15 points 8 months ago
    [–] Mastershelf@lemmy.one 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

    How is the Matrix pro-trans? Looks it up

    TIL it is now the Wachowski sisters who made the Matrix films.

    [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

    Also in the 90s estrogen pills that were used by trans people were red.

    Also the animatrix had a scene where a robot is being murdered as she asserts that she’s a woman.

    [–] Owljfien@iusearchlinux.fyi 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    There was also supposed to be a character who was a different gender in the matrix vs out, but it didn't make it to the final movie

    [–] 0ops@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Iirc it was going to be the "not like this" girl

    [–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

    Name checks out.

    [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    The Matrix is a full on trans allegory. I can recommend Tilly Bridgers "Begin Transmission" book if you want to know more.

    [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

    There's a lot of other things going on in The Matrix, but I agree that trans allegories are one of them. They really should have been allowed their original concept for the character Switch.

    [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

    Also the story, while mostly being a christ allegory, has very very strong themes about self Identity, and being unaware of your true self.

    [–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Also the thing is just steeped in trans metaphor. Consider the agents deadnaming Neo throughout as "Mister Anderson" Ander being intended as the same word part as Androgens, Androgyny or Misandry... Mister Ander Son. The system keeps reinforcing his identity as Man man man.

    Go listen back through Morpheus's speech just before he offers a red and blue pill (back in the 90's horomone treatments for trans women came in the form of little red pills)... It's a sci-fi parable for gender roles and dysphoria. Of being forced into a system where oppression isn't seen or heard or touched because almost nobody recognizes it. Only some nebulous but insistant feeling causes you to want to break free, to explore yourself.

    And once you break free you no longer have the protection from the system. The system sees you as a threat. You must accept less resources and support outside of whatever small found family and resistance you gather.

    Like all scifi parables some of it's metaphor plays second fiddle to making the technical premise work from a narrative perspective...but whenever they start talking about the Matrix consider they are actually saying "The Bioessentialist construct of gender" and you can see a lot of the different facets behind deliberate creative choices.

    [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    All of the allegory went completely over my head, which is not unusual for me. And since I'm cis I have the privilege of not having to think about how gender roles affect me in day to day life. The "red pill" thing does make it pretty funny when you consider how right-wingers, who are super transphobic, took it as their own.

    Writing this got me thinking that I hated the term "cis" when I first started hearing it years ago. It just sounded unpleasant, like "sissy" or something. But it's grown on me through repeated usage.

    load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Their TV show Sense8 is also really great progressive sci-fi.

    [–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

    Sense8 is the best thing they've made since The Matrix.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Oh it's both of them now? I remember when it was just the one. Or did I Mandela effect that?

    [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

    Looks like it was first one, then the other from a google search.

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    The what? (Not sure if you‘re joking, good for them if true)

    [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I just googled it. Crazy I didnt hear about this. Glad they went for it.

    [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I know, I don't follow entertainment news that closely or anything, but you'd think I would have heard about it sometime in the last 14 years.

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Cue my conspiracy prone mind: Why would anyone not want us to know that great artists and personalities were trans, hmmmm? Wont have anything to do with pushing traditional family values, right? RIGHT?

    [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    It was fairly well reported then the first one transitioned, but their relevancy peaked during The Matrix. Also, some people like to maintain some level of private lives.

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 8 months ago

    Good argument. Thanks for sharing.

    load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Thigh highs is something everyone can enjoy. Maybe if we got a pair on some bigots they'd wind up, and loosen down. Wait, scratch that and reverse it.

    [–] snooggums@midwest.social 10 points 8 months ago

    It's what the founding fathers wore when writing the Declaration of Independence!

    (snarky comment valid only in US)

    [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

    Very much agree, I feel like everyone should at least give them a try, they're very comfy.

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago
    [–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'm a gay man who is happily embracing his cis-genderness but I would not shun trans people as the top figure in this graphic is doing. It seems like he's totally averse to even thinking about the concept.

    Yet there's a lot of hostility toward cis people being happy about being cis, though we are kind of expected to fully support trans people embracing being trans. And I do - I just want the same sort of respect for being happily cis-gendered. For me, my gayness is about embracing the masculine (in every sense) and loving being born male. I know that gender and sexuality are unique for everyone - so my philosophy is, whatever you wish to be, embrace it fully and love it.

    [–] criitz@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Hi, I ask this in good faith: what are some examples of how cis people face hostility for being happily cis?

    [–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    As a happy cis person I'll tell you.

    Corporations are making some ads aimed at not me.

    Some media programs are being made where I'm not the only target audience.

    Also some cis writers and performers found they can't hate on trans people without being told some people dont want to hear it and wont give them money or attention anymore.

    If I have a child that says they are trans I can't beat them without the potential consequences that come with beating your child for any reason.

    It's rough out there /s

    [–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Well a couple of times previously I've posted about being happy to be cis, and was immediately downvoted and pounced on by people saying I was bigoted and disrespectful to others. Yet all i was trying to say is, I'm gay and a cis person and I think that should be respected the same as it's expected for me to respect whatever someone else chooses to be.

    load more comments (1 replies)
    load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    Thanks for sharing your experience, I just wanted to convey the declarative cisgenderness of the character in a visual and comical way and this is what came to mind. The whole point of the comic is the makepkg punchline tho, I wasn't trying to make a point of anything...

    [–] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Well of course I get that. I wasn't trying to sound accusatory so much as just my impression of what it looked like. Which is fine because it gave me a feeling of wanting to share, and so - it's not a bad thing! The comic itself is quite good and you have a real talent for it.

    load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    What is it called when you don't really care what gender you are? I'm not sure it's binary, because I don't really fully identify with either one and just do whatever I want whenever I want.

    [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    The word for not feeling a strong connection to your gender like that would be "cassgender".

    load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Huh, I thought you were supposed to use -sri. I hate dealing with the AUR, that stuff doesn't work half the time. I'm sure there are reasons for making it annoying like that but I haven't really put much thought into it before. I'd like to think making the AUR a pain in the ass makes things less likely to break, and hopefully that's not just because you're less likely to install AUR packages.

    load more comments
    view more: next ›