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[–] aproposnix@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm originally from the US. Since living in Europe, I can't believe how much easier the metric system is. I can not convert between the two so I dropped imperial. The only time I deal with it is when I call family in the states.

I do recall, when I was a kid, they tried to convert the US to metric, but it failed miserably.

[–] sibachian@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

they didn't really try. it's more of a suggestion (and still is). metric is standard in the US within science, just not among regular folks because commercially it's not as dramatic, i.e. news stations dramatize 100F!!! since it sounds way more dramatic than 38°C. if the news and commercial products started using metric, people would quickly switch over.

unfortunately a lot of imperial shit has started migrating to europe due to chinese products being produced for the US market and then sold in europe as an afterthought using imperial units.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You already got me dying mentioning 38c. Its just a case of what you've grown up with. USA should defo swap, but they would have to display both for a long time for people to understand. If the weather and such started showing both and mentioning temps in both, then yeah it would probably take off.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Holy smokes that's over 300K!

[–] dedale@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Change is hard. In Europe we wanted to drop daylight saving time, but nobody could agree on which hour to keep. So it's here to stay. Sigh.

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[–] sailsperson@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

De-juro, US already uses metric - there's samples and document and stuff like that, just like in other countries. This makes it even more peculiar, because it's just the people that aren't willing to drop some old system that they brought from the colonial British Empire with them back in the day; you'd think it only makes sense, with all the freedom and independence tendencies, but somehow the archaic measuring system from the monarch is still vigorously beloved and defended by millions... even though they've declared independence from the monarch a couple of centuries ago.

We live in a weird world.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Someone should set a new "shitamericanssay"

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And a new USDefaultism while we're at it.

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[–] Peeko@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Having the freezing point of water be at 0 instead of 32 just makes infinitely more sense.

[–] Onionizer@geddit.social 1 points 1 year ago

Only if you're measuring water temps. In general it makes more sense to put the zero of your scale at absolute zero

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[–] roulettebreaker@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had once heard described that fahrenheit's best feature is that you can go "oh, 1-100, 'sheesh, that's really cold!' to 'hoof, that's pretty hot!'" and yeah, while I was in the US where most temperatures (RIP Florida) change all the time, that sure was convenient.

However, living in a country that always stays in the 80-100 range, the 'oh fuck, the water's freezing' to 'oh fuck, the heat death of the sun is upon us' range is a MUCH more useful scale to knowing if we've been struck by some sort of apocalyptic event today

[–] fennec@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mod@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

!ShitAmericansSay

[–] CisopSixpence@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in the United States and although I grew up here using Fahrenheit, I switched to Celsius almost 10 years ago. Part of my reason for switching was the rest of the world was using Celsius and every time they would mention the temperature, I had no clue if that was very hot, or just right and kept having to convert, so since there were not that many countries that used Fahrenheit, I switched. I still know what the comfortable range is in Fahrenheit, but now I also know in Celsius as I use it every day. Also, I no longer appear to be an old curmudgeon that is resistant to using a system the rest of the world already uses.

[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I did exactly this but with 24 hour clock lol

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

As someone who moved to the US later in life, I learned to use fahrenheit because there's no way to talk to anyone about the weather or cooking otherwise.

If you need to do the same one day, don't bother trying to convert in your head. Just learn the numbers conversationally. Familiarize yourself with how the weather feels with the number the weather app shows.

I can't convert at all but I can use both C and F in conversation because one rarely needs exact numbers anyway. You learn the ballparks pretty quick.

[–] klz@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find the conversion between the two easy enough to do it my head.

This isn't exact but is close enough for conversations and 99% of my needs.

(Temp in F - 30) / 2

Examples

70F:
70F - 30 = 40
40 / 2 = 20C

10F:
10F - 30 = -20
-20 / 2 = -10

The actual number is 21 / -12 but this is close enough for me 99.9% of the time

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

When you actually need to convert, sure. For conversation, try it my way. It'll be noticeably more efficient.

[–] RMiddleton@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This, for sure. I live in the US and wanted to learn to understand Celsius so I switched my phone to use it. Internalizing a system works where translating/converting does not. I quickly learned that I feel comfortable in temperatures in the 20s. Since I feel comfortable in Fahrenheit temps in the upper 60s to mid 70s I can guess what the conversion is for most temps, but I don't have to do it to understand that I like how 22 C feels.

Similarly, if you're traveling and having to use a foreign currency I prefer to establish an idea in my head of cheap, reasonable, expensive than stopping to convert every price exactly. A "reasonable price" is relative to the item and location, of course, and should also affect my perspective.

Absorbing a new system by this method works fairly easily for temperatures and money, but less so for other measurements. I don't have as fine-tuned a sense of what ounces, pounds, or grams feel like as I do units of temperature. And I am always adding or subtracting 12 to understand time when expressed as 13h and up.

During the brief period when the US was encouraging metric system understanding there were many highway speed limit signs expressed as 55 mph / 88 kph. Every time I need to make that conversion I think of 5/8 because of that sign. And I usually just make guesstimates that work well enough.

I like learning new things. The generation before me in my family turned off their brains long ago and now suffer dementia. I work to keep my mind active. Learning other units of measure is one example.

Finally I'll say that I WISH I could get to a point of understanding languages this way without translation.

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