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Voters want change, but still remain unsatisfied with their options

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[–] UnmeltedByRain@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I'll take old over criminal or fascist.

[–] Dreckard@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Especially an old man just restored a chunk of the social safety net. No, it's not enough yet, but Republicans are making sure of that.

[–] parrot-party@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main fear with an old person is the instability it could cause if they grew ill. But the other two options are guaranteed instability. So I think I'll take my chances.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Also keep in mind that trump is basically as old as Biden.

And shows far more signs of being old. (The memory recall test thingy is not something given to someone of obviously sound mind,)

[–] zalack@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Strong "on of those things is not like the others" every m energy to this healing, lol.

[–] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing about an old president is that even if he grows senile, there's the entire rest of their administration that generally have the same goals in mind as them.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

How did that work with tfg and Ronnie?

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[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I would too, but like, could not limit it to just those three choices please?

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[–] juergen_hubert@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel that it should be pointed out that Trump is also a fascist.

[–] zelet@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

He's the total package! Like, the kind of package you'd set on fire and leave on a neighbor's porch.

[–] Wigglehard@exploding-heads.com 4 points 1 year ago (15 children)

My grandmother was born in Berlin, Germany in 1938. She watched the Gestapo put a handgun to her grandfathers head and murder him because he wouldn’t give up his grandsons to fight the russians towards the end of the war. Seeing an old woman cry towards the end of her life about the horrors of ww2 and the atrocities of nazis then the subsequent pillaging of berlin by russian soldiers (she witnessed her mother get gang raped by russian soldiers) i find your comment to be ignorant and offensive, Trump isnt a nazi and if he was you would’ve seen him arm his supporters to the teeth with military grade equipment and wholesale murder liberals like it was going out of style

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It wasn’t for lack of trying.

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[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not to diminish that experience. But that also started with people laughing at Hitler all over Europe. Just like we laughed at Trump, our luck is that America seems to be 50/50 not 80/20 like the Nazis benfore WW2.

Hey maybe all America needs is extreme poverty for more people to give in to the strong man logic and we ain't safe.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Your story is moving but the nazis existed before that and before they where in power. Germany was a democracy that became a fascist state. It did not start out with guns to the head. This is what he and others mean when they call him a fascist. Not ww2 fully have taken over fascist but the having barfights with communists fascists before the took over.

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[–] IninewCrow@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's the state of politics that the wealthy elite owners of the country absolutely enjoy

Voters no longer vote for who they want

They vote for the best of the worst that is given to them

[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They vote for the best of the worst that is given to them

Nothing new about that.

[–] Bojimbo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a lot less worried about Mitt Romney.

[–] parrot-party@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Romney was a corporate stooge, but at least you knew it was just going to be more rich get richer shit. This new variety is deadset on torturing people instead of just making them poor.

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[–] holo_nexus@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There has not been a time for ripe in modern times for a strong 3rd party candidate. To bad the whole system is rigged against it.

[–] Falmarri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That time was 2016, which is why gary johnson got so many votes.

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[–] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Fascist, criminal, or geezer.

Ngl I know which one I’m picking (the old fart).

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

sample size of 1000 though. you'd think they'd be able to find tens of thousands of people

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[–] threeio@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Sound about right.

[–] lunar_parking@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Totally normal "democracy", working very well. 🙃

[–] Sterile_Technique@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At this point, I'd be in favor of just asking 9 first-graders what their favorite single digit number is, and granting the position of POTUS to whoever's social security number matches the one they generated.

But, given our current options I'd take a clueless old man over a lucid fascist in a fuckin' heart beat. How is this really being presented as a dilemma? Would you rather have your house a bit too chili, or burn the whole thing down? Sure I don't like either option, but deciding which one's better kinda plays out like those cheesy banking commercials.

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

wait wait wait. so trump isn't to old???!!!!

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[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Srsly, what is this account?

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[–] legume1096@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

DeSantis won Florida's 2022 gubernatorial election with 60% of the vote. If somehow Trump isn't able to run for the presidency it's a landslide victory for DeSantis v Biden.

[–] The_Empty_Tuple@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

DeSantis' faltering popularity in the GOP race shows that whatever is popular in Florida isn't necessarily popular everywhere else. I don't think it's a guarantee Biden loses to DeSantis, if it comes to that.

[–] sensibilidades@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are, in fact, other states besides Florida.

[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

It's impossible to know that for sure.

[–] Saga@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Biden got more votes in Florida in 2020 than DeSantis got in 2022. Even if you assume Florida is a gimme for the Republicans that doesn't really mean shit nationally.

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[–] Wigglehard@exploding-heads.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its going to be interesting, desantis doesn’t have the support to beat trump in the primaries according to polls thus far and rfk jr (although a breath of fresh air in my opinion) doesn’t seem to have the support to upset biden in a primary (the dnc has announced it won’t hold any debates) popularity for biden is very low outside his democratic voter base and even within that base he still is polling low (not as high as he should be). In my opinion it will be trump vs biden rematch with trump winning cz of the dissatisfaction with bidens first term with the deciding factor being independent giving trump another shot and hispanic voting for trump more than before (i could be wrong but thats my take)

[–] sensibilidades@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The thing about Trump vs Biden is that they are both known quantities as presidents, and Biden (for all his faults) is simply much more competent.

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