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[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly, with Apple making it incredibly fucking hard to take out their batteries with excessive amounts of glue, I'm okay with this.

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[–] Wander@yiffit.net 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hooray! Younger generations will finally be able to experience the joy of dropping their phone and having to pick up three to four different pieces! /s

(I'm all for this change, by the way)

[–] _MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I remember that with Nokias. It's like shock absorbing for cars lol.

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was 12, I think, when I got my first phone. A Nokia. I was mortified the first time it happened. Then clack-clack-clack I was taught to put it together again.

Happened many more times afterwards.

[–] _MoveSwiftly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I was around the same age. :) I still have the old Nokias. What a time that was, with Symbian being an OS.

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[–] quortez@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fingers crossed that this will be implemented well, im tired of having sleek electronics be irrelevant in 2 years when the silicon could go for 5 or six

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

The silicon could go on for decades if both the modem and processor were fully documented hardware that the community can access and support in the Linux kernel.

I can run a secure and current form of Linux on 30+ year old hardware if I want to, because the hardware documentation was expected by everyone at the time even if some end users were oblivious to what this meant. The whole reason google pushes Android is because they provide a base Linux kernel that hardware manufacturers can easily slip their proprietary junk into without requiring them to add the kind of open source code needed for mainline kernel support by the community. This is the mechanism that depreciates your device. It is totally artificial and an end user exploitation by design.

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[–] golli@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Add to that requirements for longer software support. At least for security patches.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Phones are getting more expensive so people are holding on to them longer, so it's a nice quality of life improvement to remove the barriers to battery replacement so less people have to go down to a phone repair store to get it changed. The more of a hassle battery replacement is seen the more likely people are to just upgrade and create e-waste.

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[–] guy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Excellent! Batteries in modern phones are surprisingly definitely removable and replaceable. I've done it multiple times. However, the unfriendly barrier to entry is glue and clips that require careful prying with spugers. It's quite clear manufacturers are happy blocking you getting in; plenty people just buy new phones when the battery gets too old.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Worst was when the batteries were glued to the screen so you could break the entire phone apart trying to change it yourself.

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[–] konalt@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I actually love all these regulations on smartphones (mainly by the EU), like the recent USB-C standard. That one in particular makes it so much easier to share chargers around the house!

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[–] got2best@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do y'all remember the days when you dropped your phone and it exploded into 3 or 4 pieces? 🤣 Those were the good days.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Three. Battery, cover and the rest. Weirdly, no damage to the plastic display. How? I guess it was the ~~weather~~ bezel

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

And when you scratched up the back you bought a new one for $12. No $200 glass or machined aluminum cases that we put $35 covers on just to protect them from every day use.

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[–] thesanewriter@vlemmy.net 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If this goes through, I think it would be really good news. Battery failure is one of the leading things that force people to replace their smartphones, and having them be replaceable would go a long way towards making smartphones last longer.

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[–] Ginjutsu@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (36 children)

This is actually pretty crazy. Wonder how much it'll affect the overall design of modern smartphones. Will we witness the return of flagships with plastic back covers?

[–] DoucheAsaurus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I couldn't care less if the back cover is plastic, it's just going inside a case anyway.

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[–] TurretCorruption@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God i hope so. I miss being able to just pop the back off and change out my battery. It was great for sd and sim card slots too. I am quite excited for this

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[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

That'd be awesome. I don't understand why people think a glass back is premium. Your premium glass back doesn't look so fancy when it's shattered into a million pieces or sandwiched behind a $10 phone case from China.

I've hung on to my Note 4 that I bought in 2014 (no longer use it daily) and it's still in one piece even though it never lived in a case. The plastic and aluminum body have plenty of battle scars but no cracks or functional damage. This MFer is almost 10 years old now on its 5th or 6th battery and still hanging in there despite its aged hardware. Now that is a premium design.

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[–] Simplificity@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

right to repair LETS GOOO

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Thank you, Mr. EU

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's hope to standardized USB-C connector charging will also happen outside of Europe for the rest of the world.

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[–] RFBurns@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the few areas where I favor a "One-world" standard.

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[–] arseneau@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is awesome. Thank god for EU legislation that directly benefits me as an American consumer. Now I can microwave lithium ion batteries in peace!

[–] ClassyDave@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wonder if phone manufacturers will fragment their offerings to satisfy EU requirements or if we'll all end up with removable batteries.

[–] moridinbg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be a pretty major redesign of the chasis and body to accommodate a removable battery and the cover, so I think it would make little economical sense to maintain two designs for every phone sold here.

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy fuck this is insane. EU is doing something right (still salty about them wanting encryption keys but provisions to improve repair of hardware is big)

[–] RVGamer06@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

EU laws are a rollercoaster, sometimes they're shit, sometimes they're chadful

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This i fucking loved the times around Samsung S4 , i literarily could just go and buy a replacement battery on amazon even with 200 MAH more snap the old one out and new one in BAM better battery.

Exchanging battery for my Poco x3 pro is complicated and would cost me atleast 70-80€ thats literarily half the device lol

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[–] HeavyRaptor@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is very neat! I wonder how this is going to impact almost all phones these days having some sort of ingress protection. They glue the phones together to keep the water out, it would still be nice to have the option for water-resistant phones, but the manufacturers just gonna have to figure it out

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[–] MrMarques8701@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The question is, easily removable by the user or easily removable by a specialist with the right tools?

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[–] FabulousCable3945@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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