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Hey folks, my wife and I use Pixel phones, but we're starting to think about a phone for our kid, really just to be able to call 911, probably wouldn't even get data. We're looking for cheap and boring, the fewer features, the better. Also open to smart watches, tho we have no experience with them.

Are there any devices that fit the bill? I'm thinking something like an old Nokia brick from 20 years ago, but of course with VoLTE/VoNR.

Thanks for any help this community can provide!

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nokia still makes dumb phones now, with 4G too!

Check out the Nokia 225 4G and 6300 4G.

[–] dekatron@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The banana phone (Nokia 8110 4G) is also a fun dumb phone.

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks, didn't realize this was a thing!

[–] Devgard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

just putting it out there: giving them a cheap android phone will steer them away from android forever as they will be conditioned to think that all android are as cheap and terrible as the ones they have been given

[–] Lucrix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah give em a first gen iPhone SE. It works ok for now, plus they're cheap. But since support ended they'll soon start having some issues. That'll definitely make them want an Android >:D

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Totally fair, tho we don't need it to run Android. Some locked down OS that only does phone calls might be okay.

[–] Dustmuffins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Perfect case for a shitty iphone 6 with a cracked screen!

[–] reflex@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] adlr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Haha, that's awesome. I love the ringer!

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google needs to make the three Little Pigsels, a series of special starter Pixels for children. The three Pigsels come in Straw, Wood, or Brick, and feature a stock Android UI and a standard Pixel camera to get your child started on the correct path.

If you have any of your previous devices laying around, there you go. Otherwise you can always purchase the cheapest of the cheap like a $30 walmart phone. Data and apps can be limited but at that price point internet might be so frustrating to use that it's a deterrent as is.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I‘d also go the parental controls route, you can relax that gradually as they grow older instead of having to buy new phones.

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Excellent point. Yeah, we already use Family Link to manage screen time and it's working well

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're truly just after 911, Even a deactivated cell phone would call that in the US.

We ended up getting the kid an Apple smartwatch with LTE. The monthly price when it's not bad it's like 10 bucks. The upshot being he could call us with it we could call him with it and find my iPhone can locate him at any time.

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks! That would be an option, but we don't have any Apple devices, so I'm guessing it would be tough to provision it, plus not sure we could use find my iPhone. Would be happy to be wrong here, tho!

[–] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sure there are cellular Android Wear watches where the same concept could work, but you'd probably need to be a lot more careful about battery life.

[–] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 1 points 1 year ago

I know they specifically said they want it to be able to call 911, but they probably also would like for it to be able to call them (the parents) as well as any other relevant adults. Your Apple Watch idea is a really good one and it's also probably less likely to get carelessly lost by a kid.

[–] Orientalism@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen kids with smartwatches as a solution to this

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yup, that's definitely an option. Thanks!

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Do you still have an old android phone sitting in a drawer somewhere? Perhaps giving the child this with parental controls might be a useful solution. My rationale

  1. You can still use an app such as Signal or WhatsApp to communicate with them
  2. You can also use "find my device" (relevant android police article on this topic)
  3. This is cheaper than buying even a cheap dumb phone since you already own the device, and you can argue better for the environment since you're re-using something instead of creating more e-waste
  4. Particularly if the Android phone is still updated, it is more secure than a dumb phone these days.
[–] Milk@latte.isnot.coffee 4 points 1 year ago

I bought this one for my youngest brother. It works fine and it comes with a years worth of service. Bought it so he can call me during emergencies. https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/829226

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Lowend Android phone with parental contols and no SIM wouldn't work?

[–] plo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Any phone would do just that. Get the cheapest dumb phone you can find. That way it also doesn't break the bank when it eventually breaks.

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of basic flip phones available for cheap, Tracfone has a Nokia for 20 bucks. Could look at phones targeted for seniors, like the jitterbug flip, if they're really young but that would be more expensive than a basic flip phone.

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks! Wouldn't have thought of a senior type of phone. I'll take a look!

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just be careful with the Jitterbug or lively phones because he will very likely end up with police at your house or school because he pressed the urgent button. And trust me when I say they can't remove that function even if it's cancelled. There are other elderly phones like through tracfone more appropriate for a child. Definitely avoid any phone with an emergency button as I'm sure he's old enough to know how to dial 911.

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, that's good advice!

[–] Slapplebags@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I got a gently used sonim phone for $50 on eBay, they have industructable feature phones with great battery life.

[–] decentralized@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would say go with an older Apple phone. Their stock parental controls tend to be a bit better than what you can get on Android without modding, and (let's be real) it will probably be supported for longer. When they get older you can disable the features to their maturity level.

[–] lka1988@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, stay away from Apple. Their parental controls are godawful, (granular, but awful) because it randomly disables itself. I've watched it happen with my own eyes.

Pinwheel, Gabb, Bark, MMGuardian, and others sell cheap Android phones with custom firmware tailored to kids with backdoors for parents to control and monitor them.

[–] decentralized@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't know that. It has been a while since I have had to set one up for a relative. Maybe I should have them check that to make sure they haven't gotten up to anything they shouldn't've

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's an option, but once again do you know if I can provision and use parental controls if we don't have any other Apple devices?

[–] mikestevens@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So far I've only given my kids Samsung tablets and no phones yet, but Google's Family Link has pretty solid features and usability.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kyocera DuraXE looks promising, but not compatible with all carriers.

some traditional smartphone functionality would be useful for a kid - maps, for example. no idea if there's a partially dumb phone out there.

[–] adlr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, that looks perfect! A bit on the pricy side, but we can look for coupons. Thanks very much!

[–] kima09@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just search dumb/bar/feature phone on Amazon, you'll find lots of it. If you want 4G connectivity, add 4G keywords. That's it.

[–] mikestevens@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Asking for recommendations usually means hoping your peers will have personal experience, which beats just searching for phones and reading the reviews that may or may not have ill intent.

[–] ThaijsClan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could go this route. The phones have good various parental controls, relatively cheap and effective. Gabb Phone

[–] barnes@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woah, this rules. Never seen it before.

[–] ThaijsClan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's pretty big out where I'm from. They also make smart watches too I believe.

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