this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2022
-2 points (45.0% liked)

Privacy

31918 readers
1012 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

Chat rooms

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

What do you think? The Hated One said Signal was the honeypot, but it looks like Element is the real one. Signal doesn't even have analytics, or barely something that we should be afraid of.

all 10 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] CHEFKOCH@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't Element open source?

[–] lionel@lemmy.coupou.fr 6 points 2 years ago

As long as it's opt-in and they don't harass you I don't see the problem.

Compare this to companies that make this stuff opt-out and put the setting behind several menus and "really, are you sure you want to take money from me, I mean are you really really sure?" confirmations, then reactivate it at the next update.

[–] Nyaa@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Getting analytics isn't a honeypot or an invasion of privacy.

Getting analytics without consent or as opt out is a honeypot or an invasion of privacy.

As long as a company or software takes steps to protect my data, asks me first, and doesn't try to trick me into enabling it, I am fine with it collecting privacy preserving analytics on my usage.

Analytics is very useful for development. 99% of your users will not post about their usage of your app. They will either use it, or delete it if they get annoyed or rant somewhere. With analytics (that respect privacy and are opt in), you can know what features are used by your silent majority.

[–] Windows97@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Anonymous analytics are useful for developers though. As long as it's opt-in and clear there's no problem.

[–] caelp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

basically everyone these days ask you analytics, the best you can do is saying no and use open source stuff

[–] Yujiri@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] caelp@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago