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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The idea is very different than the reality. The freedom of information, communication, and variety are so much better now.

Need a job, get a newspaper for classified ads and take whatever you can get, or start calling friends and networking when you're lucky to get a voicemail.

Want to unwind and watch something? You can spend all evening flipping through channel after channel of garbage.

Need to learn something, prepare to spend days going to different public libraries to find anything useful. Most people don't learn anything. Most people's only adult social connection is though religion. It is a small dumb world where I grew up.

[–] realitista@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, the amount of time you spent just isolated and bored was unfathomable to people today.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I called my grandfather when I wanted to learn something. The library was the backup if he didn't know. He was a well educated engineer, and my grandmother also had a university education and an excellent knowledge of literature.

I wouldn't mind killing off social media, but I have offline copies of Wikipedia for a reason. That shit is important.

[–] nieceandtows@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to send emails to libraries for information on a certain topic and got back lots of information

[–] fuzzzerd@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you get an email address for a library that is actually monitored by a human that would respond?

[–] nieceandtows@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Libraries provide it as a free service. It’s called virtual reference. Here is one such service I found by searching.

https://askalibrarian.org/

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, the good old remantization of the things you don't know.

If they're so eager about it, they can try taking their hands off the phone, for change.

[–] 51@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn’t change expectations of others for you to respond to work emails or other shit at all hours. Doesn’t bring back the days of concert going paying attention instead of 800 phones being held up to record some shitty angle that will never be watched again, or people being rude while checking out, or distracted driving.

[–] Kyval@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doesn’t change expectations of others for you to respond to work emails or other shit at all hours.

That was still a thing before the internet/cellphones. My dad would receive phone calls at home at all hours back in the 90s and he was just a low level manager. He just pretended to not be home. When work gave him a cell phone, he would just turn it off when he left work and pretend his phone died.

[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to wonder if the real discussion here is between 'pre-internet' or 'not the internet where you're the product being sold and sold to', because I strongly suspect it's the latter that's the issue here.

I'm just barely old enough to recall how things worked before the internet and I don't think people would ever really want to go back to not being able to watch anything they want, any time they want, or not having turn-by-turn directions or even things like ordering a pizza by having to call someone on the phone.

[–] riskable@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AT THE TONE THE TIME WILL BE 12:49 AND 50 SECONDS. BEEP!

No thanks. I like my internet time sync and GPS navigation.

[–] dystop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh that brings back memories.

[–] JohannesOliver@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have to be a memory, NIST still runs two telephone time numbers - (303) 499-7111 (WWV) and (808) 335-4363 (WWVH). They say they get about 1000 calls a day which is surprisingly high.

They're still on shortwave too.

[–] Shikadi@wirebase.org 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine going on a road trip and getting stuck somewhere 3 hours from home with no cell phone

[–] unix_joe@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

What a stupid poll. I don't see what the article wants me to think, but it was probably a couched question, considering the article explicitly links the Internet to pedophiles, criminals, and people who advocate abolishing democracy.

No mention of the good things that the ability to instantly communicate around the world means. Or a reminder of how stupid things were before the Internet. Like vacuum tubes at Lowe's.

Even a 54 year old, the top age polled, has no idea what a world without Internet means, as they would have been in their early twenties as America Online was rolling out.

They probably expect it to be just a world where "Do Not Disturb" mode is enabled on their phones all the time while still having access to Netflix and credit card instant transactions and not balancing a checkbook.

[–] Widget@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I, for one, don't miss waiting 2 hours to try and meet up with people who might have forgotten when or where we decided to meet up at, three weeks ago.

[–] ctmnz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure who they are asking or if the poll is being manipulated, but I really can't see the majority of Americans wanting this. I lived recently in a retirement community, so boomers and older. And they all use and love the internet and cell phones. And everyone younger I run across uses a cell phone (and a computer both with internet).

[–] gorkx@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[–] The1Morrigan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was just thinking this earlier today. Life just seemed more simple.

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was. But only because it was in the 80s and I was in my early teens back then. I don’t think the world was much simpler though. I was just looking at it through oblivious eyes of youth..

Cold War was in its heyday. Russia was at war, just like today. Ronald Regan came to power. There were bloody and terrible terrorist attacks. Chernobyl blew up etc etc.

It was a shitshow.

[–] JohannesOliver@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The late 80s and 90s weren't so bad. I think a lot of what they call "internet" is really reflecting the algorithmic, intentionally addictive social media (vs the old forums, that were sort of niche even then), and "cell phones" likely smart phones that are a prime avenue for accessing that social media. I'd probably give up my smart phone convenience for a phone-less Spotify streamer and a standalone GPS.

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