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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This whole system is a lot newer than most services you've used on the Internet. It's under constant change. Expect it to look different next week, month, or year.

[–] npastaSyn@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. The systems are being flooded from the migration. Communities are quickly being formed. A little patience and people rolling up their sleeves to make it better go a long way.

[–] Royalish@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Filter by New so you don't see the same few posts every time to open Lemmy.

[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

... or top day if you want more established posts with lively comment sections that age out after 24h.

[–] RedCanasta@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There isn't explicitly a profit motive on here (unlike almost every other big social media site).

So you can do away with the clickbait-y, karma or like farming...

We don't do that here.

[–] vewave@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"So you can do away with the clickbait-y, karma or like farming..."

Are there many individual users who participate in these type of activities?

My understanding is that a lot of it is automated: farming with the intent to make accounts look legitimate and eventually manipulate public opinion to whatever ends (like selling a product/service).

Is kbin doing anything different that would curb or dissuade such behavior?

[–] ___hulk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but the ROI here is way less since the users are more savvy initially. Eventually it'll homogenize out and you'll get auto bots.

This post written by a meat popsicle.

On lemmy, you can tick off 'show read posts' in settings, so viewed posts are hidden.

[–] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Until we have migration tools, think of your account as disposable
  • Never upload anything you don't want the world to see, no matter how private something claims to be
[–] Royalish@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you explain the migration tools, or lack thereof.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the mastodon/Calckey world you can migrate your account on one instance to a new account on a new instance and all the people following you will transfer and automatically follow your new account. So you don't have to be all "Hey moving to [xyz new instance] follow me there!"

That's something that's in the works for kbin and Lemmy some day

[–] npastaSyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm curious if that works with unfederated servers or servers that simple just get shutdown. Ie xyz government decides to raid the servers, (is there redundancy in the data?)

[–] MeowdyPardner@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I guess the main challenge would be proving to the new instance that the old offline instance authorized the transfer, maybe something like a keypair could be generated with each account and a signed proof attached to the user profile that gets federated around as other servers receive user profile objects, then provide an account backup function that lets you save the keys as a file so the importing server can verify the key and federate the change of ownership of content to other instances somehow.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Currently, no. Right now you tell your new instance to expect a transfer from your old. Then you tell your old your new instance and if they match, the transfer begins. In your example, you wouldn't be able to do half the steps needed so it would fail. And since each server is unique, it would be up to them whether or not there were any backups or not.

[–] sl3dge@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I guess they're talking about migrating your account from an instance to another

[–] binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you submit a reply or a post, always save it to your clipboard first. Lemmy has swallowed my responses many many times. In fact, it took me about 5-6 attempts to submit this comment.

[–] IntlLawGnome@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't forget to hit the CTRL button when clicking on any external links so they open in a new tab. Basically pretend it's 2012 again.

[–] sisyphean@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Or use the middle mouse button.

[–] npastaSyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or long press on a phone or tablet.

[–] carrot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Or middle click on a mouse.

[–] ndr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Or cmd+click for Mac users.

[–] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

There are some early open betas going on for iOS apps through Test Flight.

mlem already reached their iOS testing limit of 10K users, but /c/memmy is trekking along with daily updates and not quite there yet. I’m using it now, in fact.

Both apps are planning to be publicly available in the App Store for 6/30 - and I’m sure there’s a few other developers work on stuff now as well. Really exciting times!

[–] DannyBoy@mastodon.ie 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@npastaSyn Thanks to ActivityPub you can use Lemmy/Kbin and other fediverse social networks without the need of making a new account in them.

Right now I'm writing this from Mastodon.
If I were about making an account probably I'll go to lemmy.ca people over there seem extra chill.

Like adding extra Lemmy to an order of Lemmy.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please tell me how I can follow a magazine / community in Mastodon. I tried to do it but would only see a random comment, not the OP of a post or any of the other comments. When I would click on the comment it would take me directly to Kbin or Lemmy. (Which is fine, since I'm mainly on Kbin for the message board feel and on Mastodon for the miceoblog experience.)

[–] Mintyytea@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you talking about subscribing to a magazine? I do it on mobile by clicking the magazine I want, clicking the top left square button modal with the 3 lines, then scroll down until you see the magazine name to click Subscribe

[–] npastaSyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

On thing that is annoying for me is that the subscription button would make more sense at the top.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Question: is there a way to save posts or comments?

[–] EthanolParty@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

At least on my instance, you can click the three dots under the post to open up some expanded options, then click the star to save the post.

On Jerboa, there should be a little bookmark icon under each post.

[–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Yes of course. In the web app there's a little star icon you can click and on jebora theres a little badge next to the vote buttons

[–] axzxc1236@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

go to /communities/listing_type/All/page/1 to find communities.

[–] Mintyytea@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Set your settings early on so you can get notifications xD (click your username, then Settings)

The defaults are set to be very minimal, so I was wondering why I never knew if anyone had replied to me.

Almost none if these were set by default

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you want Lemmy to be successful, contribute as much high quality content as possible so more people will be inclined to stay here. Don't lurk.

[–] exohuman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Join a kbin instance and also join a Lemmy instance. Neither one is very stable yet (kbin has only been out a couple months) so I suggest using kbin until it starts having issues then switching to Lemmy for a while.

[–] npastaSyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't they cross compatible? I'm still fuzzy on the differences. Also lemmy instances were getting hammered, (as it looks like the kbin are too now), so thus my choice of kbin.

[–] Mintyytea@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The downtime is getting better though. I made this kbin account like 2 days ago and logged off right away cuz I was trying to figure out magazines and each time I clicked something, it said I was not logged in and I had to relog.

Today I’m trying it out again and everything is working, though sometimes I get a 503 error if I try to open a page or post something

[–] syrinori@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Possibly the wrong place to ask but is anyone aware if there is a way to see a list of your favorites/upvotes in kbin?

[–] asimplefriedegg@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

Set your language preference to undecided and English so all posts display correctly. I kept seeing communities with "no posts" till I did this

[–] sparkplug49@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can somebody ELI5 the difference between kbin and lemmy. I think I understand lemmy being like mastadon. Who is hosting kbin?

Kbin is also like Mastadon. It's basically the same thing as lemmy, just with a slightly different user interface. (I personally like it better, which is why I'm here, lol.)

The main kbin instance, kbin.social, is hosted by a guy called @Ernest, who's also the main (only?) dev who created kbin. But there are other kbin instances hosted by totally unaffiliated people, too.

[–] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I’m no expert but I can do my best. Kbin was created by @ernest, and is actually a very young platform compared to even Lemmy. It let’s you post threads, similar to Reddit or Lemmy. Like Lemmy, it also uses something called ActivityPub, which means that Kbin users can see and comment on Lemmy threads and vice versa as long as the instances (ex. Lemmy.world, kbin.social) are β€œfederated” meaning that they are talking to each other.

One of the big differences is that Kbin supports microblogging as well, similar to a Mastodon or Twitter post. Because of this, you can see and interact with content on Mastodon from Kbin much more easily, which also uses ActivityPub. Lemmy can also technically interact with Mastodon but it is not as seamless as threads don’t display that well on a microblog and vice versa.

There’s some more technical and cultural differences as well but I think that’s the biggest difference in function.

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