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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Imagine how much of a sociopath you'd have to be to think you can bring people to your side by harassing preschoolers; that's a Westboro Baptist Church level of being out of touch with humanity.

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While also bringing your own kid named.. checks notes .. Kayden. Of course the kid’s name is fucking Kayden…

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lets go yell at Kayden for his parents choices!

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Nah the kid is a victim here as well, he didn’t choose to be named Kayden, it’s just another artifact of his parents’ poor judgement.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Westboro Baptist Church level of being out of touch with humanity.

Nahhhhh. Westboro are antisemitic, homophobic, Islamophobic, and generally a hate group. This is just protesting. You don't get to help blow up families and claim your family is suppose to be shielded from it

[–] alliswell33@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If your going to be harassed for anything, actively supporting a genocide seems like a good reason. Sorry I won't be clutching my pearls on this one.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Blinken's 3-year-old and 4-year-old have absolutely no culpability when it comes to genocide.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Agreed.

Neither do the dead Palestinian kids.

But that was no reason to lay off. “Entire neighborhoods have been bombed to the ground with children missing under rubble,” Hazami Barmada, the encampment’s organizer, told me. “Why are those children forced to understand the brutal, barbaric realities of war, when his children should be sanitized from it?”

Terrorizing children is fucked. So is killing them. And so is perpetuating that kind of sick genocidal violence as a government official while ignoring one's own citizens.

This idea that protest has to be polite and contained is ...unhelpful. Those in power want protests that can be ignored.

All this awful shit being done by powerful people in the world all over... and the rest of us are totally powerless to do anything. I'm not surprised to see protesters taking more extreme measures.

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

When trying to stop genocide, what's a step too far?
I'm fairly certain that the step exists, but I'm fairly certain that the step is pretty far from here.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 7 months ago

Attacking somebody's toddlers is such a powerful move /SARCASM

[–] Llamalitmus@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

I think that way of thinking is why it is so difficult to deal with colonialism. We can commit atrocities, and as long at the people who committed them have died of old age, their descendants are free and clear. I don't really know where ixstand on this. But I can't not acknowledge that I have benefited from the misery of others. Whether it is slave wage labor, the crimes against indigenous peoples, patriarchy, or these proxy wars around the world. I think that pushing back against these injustices when seeing the harm it is causes makes obvious sense. But I think it also makes sense to do it selfishly. These people are making us culpable. Doesn't matter if it was someone we voted for who made these decisions, or even if it's someone we didn't vote for. These decisions are being made in our names and with our money. Idk man. Shit's complicated

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Please don't help. Because you aren't.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I suspect that if protesters camped outside of my house and screamed at my young children about my actions, I would reflexively oppose whatever they were advocating for. I just can't see this being an effective tactic for ending the war in Gaza.

But, I'm not Bliken who is not a politican but an experienced diplomat.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

It's easy to see why the right enjoys "owning the libs" so much. The left includes many people who are so bad at persuasion or making points that it can drive people who otherwise support what they are trying to push to hate them.

Though it's dangerous to actually change your stance based on actions of some who apparently support something, because that opens up the possibly of the opponents hiring people to protest in bad taste like this specifically to drive opposition.