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cross-posted from: https://linux.community/post/517988

I read a post about how when you’re the new guy, you are basically on probation until you are not. My questions:

Does this also apply if I move within the same system? I'm a nurse that may move to another unit or to a desk position.

The same poster says my new coworkers will try to find ways to not trust me. I find this strange: why would they do that? they don't even know me. Seems hostile.

If this is true, doesn't this act like a deterrent? It means each time you change where you work you start from zero all over again. I always thought changing jobs was exactly that, changing the place where you work, doing a job you know to do.

Something that grinds my gears is how there is no neutral way of deciding who is a good employee: it's always each and every individual you work with who decides, according to his own personal biases and preferences how 'good' you are to them and they present this biased opinion as fact, but every person's view of you is going to be different, so you always have to gauge what the person you work with, a coworker with more experience who has to report about you considers 'good' to be in good graces with him and indirectly, with the group. If this is true, changing jobs is not as easy as I thought.

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[–] asshole@r.nf 9 points 9 months ago

This honestly sounds like the ramblings of a robot trying to fit with humans without being detected.

Who suggested all of this, some kind of jaded ChatGPT trying to enter the workplace?

Any legal probation time is probably in your contract. If you don't have anything in your contract about it, you're probably not going through another probation time.

I don't know why your coworkers will try to find ways not to trust you. I'm no nurse, but that sounds toxic as hell. If this shit would he happening around me, I'd look for a new job.

Changing jobs can mean taking in different responsibilities or doing things differently. Everyone workplace has their own systems. In some places you'll need to do a bit more admin for the same job, in other places there will be a dedicated person to that task.

If you're a nurse and you apply for a nurse position, you'll be a nurse again. You'll do nurse duties and work with other nurses. They're not going to change you into a car mechanic because you changed companies, unless you applied for a car mechanic job. You'll need to meet and work with new coworkers, maybe learn who to talk to to get certain things done, and you'll probably be back doing the same stuff you did before. Onboarding can take anywhere from a week to a year, but within a week you'll probably be doing your old duties, just in a new place.

As for being a perceived as "good" to someone: that's just how people work. It worked like that in school, it works like that in whatever hobby club you visit, it works like that on the workplace. When you come into a group of people, they don't know you, so they don't know how to judge you. You may be the second coming of Jesus, you may be a serial killer, they don't know. Bringing in a piece of paper proving competence and having a few years of experience should straighten that out on most work floors: you're at least reasonably competent and socially acceptable enough to get the job, so you're at least as competent as the most junior member of the team, maybe more.

Unless you own your own business, there will be someone above you in the chain with a certain idea about what you can do and how well you can do it. If you're at a place with many people, someone will be tasked to make sure everyone keeps performing well. That's not to attack you when you're vulnerable, that's to make sure nobody decides to clock in and sit on Lemmy all day while still cashing the cheques. And if you do own a business and hire other people, you will be the one passing judgement instead.

If you feel the need to constantly prove yourself, you either need therapy or your workplace sucks. It's not normal in most jobs. Jobs that do require constant approval often have quotas you're expected to meet that have been communicated beforehand.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 0 points 9 months ago

It's a bit unfair and unreasonable, but I try avoid mistakes that are very obvious to management. Like coming in late, not finishing reports that that checked, missing deadlines, etc. I'm not suggesting it, but half-assing something that won't be noticed is safer.

It's a bit shit, but I'd try to be extra good when starting a new position, ya. Being nice and agreeable in the beginning is helpful too.

I'm literally sorry that our system is like this.