If not on Wayland, what's stopping you?
NVIDIA :(
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If not on Wayland, what's stopping you?
NVIDIA :(
Been on Wayland for a few years. It’s not always been sunshine and roses, but neither has X.
I still remember being really annoyed everytime I had to edit Xorg.conf files and finding my desktop to no longer boot or mouse to no longer work.
X because when I try selecting Wayland from sddm the screen goes black and then takes me back to sddm. I'm on manjaro and I've done no configuration and I've not attempted to install Wayland I just assume because it's an option in my drop down that it's been installed.
@Fizz @bacteriostat @kde On my arch install, I had to install plasma-wayland-session to make that option work.
I had plasma-wayland-session already installed. It turns out I needed to add nvidia-drm to the kernal params and forced GBM backend. After that it seems to be working. I am a wayland man now!
X, because honestly my screen works and don't currently need to replace the server behind it.
I understand and X works fine for a lot od people but do remember the number of developers maintaining it have been dropping year on year. No harm in trying IMO. If you are on Plasma or Gnome, you get a simple switcher on the login screen.
Yeah, I know X is really showing its age.
I have to add that the switcher is not on Debian 12 by default, where Wayland support for Plasma is optional in plasma-workspace-wayland. Also, it is broken on Nvidia due to missing packages/libraries and Nvidia's proprietary driver still in general not supporting Wayland properly.
It is bottom left on my sddm login Wayland or X11 session kde. Debian 12 bookworm AMD
Because you installed it, or because 12 now gives both via tasksel (or Debian setup). My system is from Debian 10
Still using X on some of my servers because AnyDesk does not currently support Wayland, and sometimes I want a GUI instead of ssh.
Wayland, I've tried X but it just seems so much slower
Wayland!
It has advanced a lot lately, I've been daily driving it for months now with no issues, compared to a couple of Plasma versions ago where it would break itself in 5 minutes lol.
Only thing I'm missing is a good remote access solution. I'm currently making do with Sunshine + Moonlight but it has the very annoying bug of not showing the mouse cursor.
I'm on Wayland on all computers. The main pain point I have with Wayland at this moment is the lack of session save/restore (remembering which windows were open and saving their state on logout, and restoring all on login).
I use Wayland and love it, but have two serious issues:
X11 because what we really needed was X12 but instead we threw the baby out with the bath water.
Despite having an nvidia card, i use wayland and deal with the glitches cause once you've gotten a taste you can't go back
When I used Wayland my laptop couldn't turn on properly after sleeping. I think it's related to the fact that sddm (at least in standard repos) is xorg at the moment.
I'm on Wayland on my laptop, which is AMD (I specifically went all AMD because NVidia is just kind of a pain in the ass on Linux I've found) and that works perfectly, it's been my daily driver for probably about a year and I tend to forget I'm even running it unless it comes up, such as talking about it now.
My desktop is Nvidia and that thing will crash if you even say the word Wayland within about 10 feet of it so that one's still rocking X11 for now.
X for me.
I tried Wayland a few times over the years but it was always too buggy and many applications just didn't work.
A couple of updates later, Wayland completely stopped working, all I get is a black screen and a cursor.
When was the last time you tried? And which GPU?
I tried it again just now. I can still start a console but plasma just won't start. All I get is
The Wayland connection broke. Did the Wayland compositor die?
plasma-plasmashell.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
qt.qpa.wayland: Wayland does not support QWindow::requestActivate()
I'm on Nvidia of course 😕