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[–] missingno@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Youtube is far too expensive for anyone to try and run a competitor to. I don't think we'll ever see a replacement.

Google is still losing money on it, and might never make it profitable. There's a real risk that Youtube just dies on its own and nothing replaces it.

[–] mmmplak@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Youtube is one of the things that less techie people think of when it comes to internet videos. It’s quite mainstream and will stay for long.

[–] notun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Youtube has already become a verb much like google.

[–] elonspez@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is far from dead. Most of the subs I care about are back.

[–] vikinghoarder@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

You got PeerTube but the amount of content is obviously inferior.

You also got Odysee which is based on the LBRY network.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are already many other sites and as YouTube keeps getting worse and greedier there will probably be more and more creators going elsewhere.

One example is firearms content moving to utreon. And obviously nsfw which has never been welcome there being available on many other hosts.

YouTube is not the only possible video service that can exist in the world.

It's unlikely that another monopoly can take over their business as a whole, but YouTube can definitely fail and video hosting has long been fragmented.

[–] notun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The worst thing about youtube is that they forced all my favourite youtubers into becoming streamers, and that's just an entirely different type of content.

Can anyone eli5 why pornhub doesn't just use their long standing streaming infrastructure to create a sfw site like... Idk "VidHub"? I feel like they could be a genuine competition with very little adjustment.

[–] pasci_lei@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither is Digg. Or myspace. Or many of dozens of services that used to be popular and fell into irrelevance.

[–] cwagner@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy is irrelevant compared to Reddit. Completely and utterly. There’s what, a single medium-sized subreddit over all instances here?

[–] fear@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being in its infancy doesn't make it irrelevant.

[–] notun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The three words he typed after irrelevant were kinda important to his point.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think anything will ever replace YouTube. Did you ever wonder why there aren't many good alternatives?

It's because video streaming websites are very expensive and usually run at a loss. The storage and bandwidth to support all these users constantly uploading and watching videos is really high. It's why the Twitch competitor Mixer shut down a few years ago, it was bleeding money.

I use an adblocker and hate ads as much as the next person but imo prople do take these video services for granted. They need ads to survive and I can't imagine a world where I'd need to pay a subscription to use them.

[–] UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to wonder how effective PeerTube might be in lessening the bandwidth costs at scale. So far the PeerTube instances I've seen have had so few users that I rarely see my computer uploading to other users or other users uploading to me.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even then peer to peer isn't a good solution for me because I have limited upload/download where I live.

[–] UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Ah that's unfortunate. Bandwidth caps need to die.

[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Peer Tube could take off by us uploading to it and linking it from Lemmy

[–] exohuman@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only problem is YouTube has a way to monetize their videos, attracting creators who work to make money on the content. PeerTube doesn’t have that yet.

[–] UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Handling ads and payments is a whole other issue that federated platforms haven't even begun to tackle yet. Crypto might be a way forward but it's messy enough that it might turn some people off.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Odysee and Rumble are actually really solid alternatives to YouTube. They're just missing the content. No, they're not as good as YouTube, but they're good enough.

[–] aegisgfx877@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem really is that if Odysee for example got really big, one of the other corporate giants would just buy it and turn it into shit, there seems to be no winning this battle in the long term.

edit: wow I just want there and its pretty obvious they have zero moderation there, the content is overrun with conspiracy garbage and anti-government insanity. That place is DOA.

[–] Midgitsu@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rumble is lacking so many simple features that YouTube has, like being able to just listen to content while the screen is off. YouTube seems to be the only video streaming app able to do this.

[–] UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Only if you pay for YouTube Premium tho. I use the YouTube mobile site with either Brave or Firefox + Video Background Play Fix extension to workaround this silly limitation.

[–] Calcharger@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends on how long people will desire long form video content. Maybe 15 years?

[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] notun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm constantly forced to find new extensions that hide Youtube Shorts because they stop working regularly.

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