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Hello, with the spicy beehaw drama I was wondering, would it be possible to selfhost a lemmy instance literally just for yourself and no one else to like, circumvent any defederation shenanigans? As all instances federate per default, this should work right?

Allthough, as far as my understanding of how federation works is that I would need to manually subscribe to every community on every instance that I'm interested in as federation only syncs communities that have at least one subscriber on the hosting instance, correct?

Or is there a way to subscribe to EVERYTHING?

Other than that is there any obvious downside to doing that?

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[โ€“] martin_uieafa@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Other than that is there any obvious downside to doing that?

You must be able to administrate and pay for a server.
Apart from that, it would not be nice to participate in the network and use the computing capacity of others, but not bring any infrastructure into the network yourself (by registration lock).

[โ€“] ripcord@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just curious, which beehaw drama?

Edit: ah, scrolled down a bit and found this, assume that's it.

[โ€“] NotSteve_@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beehaw is defederating from sh.itjustwor.ks and Lemmy.world.Personally I think it's silly to be upset over it considering defederation is one of the selling points of Lemmy.

Beehaw is just going for a more curated experience which I think is completely fine. I'm sure once they have more moderators they'll consider refederating anyway.

[โ€“] jherazob@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's the stated plan, wait a bit until things settle

[โ€“] Banda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Iโ€™ve been curious about this also but for a different reason. I assume all my posts and comments are hosted at the instance Iโ€™m subscribed to. Should that server go down away for any reason my account and all its data would be lost right? Iโ€™d rather be in control of keeping my own data safe.

[โ€“] density@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It makes me think of when you sign up for a VPS like linode and they have a bunch of drop-in applications you can click to install. Like cpanel, wordpress etc. But you aren't really fully running it in the same way as if it was physically a device in your home. There are some pro admins taking care of some of the details.

I feel something like that would be the middle ground for people wanting independence without having to learn such deep systems admin skills.

[โ€“] Kichae@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When people say "instances federate by default", they don't mean the instances engage in active content discovery. They mean the default behaviour when someone goes to look for content that's offsite is to connect to the remote instance.

Running a solo Lemmy or kbin instance puts all of the responsibility of content discovery on your own shoulders. You'll need to go out and scout other instances to see what you want to follow, and then subscribe to those sources in order to keep content flowing.

I highly recommend having a secondary account that you use to subscribe to things somewhat indiscriminately so you can separate out your subscribed feed from your all feed in a meaningful way.

[โ€“] dichtbringer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This is a good idea, use one account just to sub everything so syncing works and I can use "all" and "subsribed" seperatly, very good idea. Do you know if there is an easy way to "subscribe to everything"? Like a script or something?

[โ€“] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's happened to beehaw?

[โ€“] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defederation of a couple of servers. Think one was lemmy.world

[โ€“] TooL@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol that's a big yikes. Glad I never managed to make an account over at beehaw.

[โ€“] jherazob@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was simply a moderation issue, the two instances in question were giving them a lot of moderation work, and lacking Mastodon's "limit" option they decided to just defederate them until things settle down a bit, remember that this is all volunteers in their spare time, not employees of a corporation

[โ€“] RomanRoy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What is the "limit" option?