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This is obviously very upsetting. But I'd also like to know what y'all's answers would be to the question on this meme. This is not something I advocate for I'm going to be transparent about that, I've just noticed things like this a lot on the internet and want to gain some perspective.

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[–] abcd@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

IMO there isn’t much to discuss about. Hit me, I hit you back. I don’t understand why I have an obligation to take care of an aggressor who hit me first. I’m not saying immediately kill the other person but it should be at least equal to what I had to take.

It doesn’t matter if it’s a man, woman or even another species.

One exception: The person has obvious reasons reasons like alcohol or substance abuse and is not able to think clearly what he/she is doing.

My parents teached me to not hit people in the first place. This is also a very good strategy to not get hit 😉

[–] meteorswarm@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We all have a right to defend ourselves, but also an obligation to deescalate. It's all contextual. Following black and white rules is not the way to operate in a complex world.

Memes like this serve to stoke anti-feminist sentiment among men. I don't think we should post them, but it's useful to discuss.

[–] Kempeth@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

This! Asking "under what circumstances am I allowed to hit women" sounds like you're itching for it.

If your only train of thought regarding domestic abuse is "ohh. Does that mean I can hit back now?" then you're not a victim, you're just a closeted abuser.

If your only answer to a public assault is fighting back you're not concerned with solving the situation, you're just spoiling for a fight.

Sure, there are situations where fighting back IS the only viable solution. But jumping to it immediately means we're not talking about a hypothetical situation - we're talking about a fantasy of yours.

The answer is exerting the minimum amount of force required to end combat. If a woman is beating the shit out of a man, I would not fault him for striking but he MUST stop the moment he is no longer on the defense and GTFO.

Always try to defuse the situation before it gets physical, defend yourself when necessary only AS MUCH as necessary (the best defence is not being where the fists are), never assault anyone. Pretty simple rules to live by no matter who you are.