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[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 117 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Got some pot on you? Straight to jail. Try to overthrow the government? See you in 3+ years where you MIGHT get a slap on the wrist but also might get to be president again.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

Only if you try to overthrow the government for the Federalists. If you try to overthrow it in the name of progress, you'll be a spending the rest of your life in a very uncomfortable prison.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While you're almost certainly right... this is your response to what should be a tiny bit of good news? Maybe it's time for a break from the news?

I mean, what would you have done if they had ruled in favor of immunity instead of denying it??

As for me, I'll take the w here.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I kinda get your point, but also If you watch enough news you realize there is no W here. It's all meaningless because Trump owns SCOTUS and they have the final say.

EDIT: No, SCOTUS isn't beholden to Trump but electing him is in their interests.

EDIT2: Well I certainly hope yall are right and they won't let him on the ballot but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] vinylshrapnel@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

SCOTUS isn’t beholden to anyone. Not even Trump. Once they were confirmed they don’t need a thing from him and have that office until they die. Sure they have a right leaning majority, but they still seem pretty cognizant that there rulings can be used by democrats too, so handing wins to Trump isn’t exactly straight forward. If they claim Trump has immunity while in office and after leaving, that applies to the current administration too. It would be a huge gamble to rule in favor of Trump on this appeal and I don’t think they want to open that can of worms while someone else can take advantage of it.

Not to mention, even if Trump gets out of this scot free, the results of the n xt election are far from certain. Biden could be welding thos immunity powers for the next four years too.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

lol be more wrong, my man

SCOTUS is laden with Federalist Society conservative wackjobs, but they (aside from Thomas and Alito a bit) have zero love for Trump. They're more than happy to side with him when it serves long-term conservative principles and aims, but that have demonstrated zero hesitation when his policies and pleadings don't align with their own.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except the Trump presidency does coincide with their aims. Trump would Usher in the greatest destruction of the federal government in US history. He's the federalist society's dream. He has no morals or Scruples he does whatever his advisors tell him and his advisors are from the Federalist Society.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

They’re killing Chevron without him. Maybe read something instead of harvesting takes from YouTube and Twitter, my dude.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But him winning the presidency does align with their goals. So yeah, saying he owns them is wrong, but it's how they're gonna vote.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Not really.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

They've ruled against him a lot. They could have thrown a huge wrench into the election by allowing Texas to sue PA, buy they didn't it. If he owned it, it would go the other way.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Damn paywalls...

Short article though:

Donald Trump can be prosecuted for trying to overturn the 2020 US election, a federal appeals court ruled, rejecting his claim of immunity and moving him closer to trial before November’s presidential vote as he seeks to return to the White House. The decision by a three-judge panel with the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit marks a watershed moment in the historic prosecution of Trump by Special Counsel Jack Smith on criminal charges of conspiring to reverse his loss in the last election and remain in power. Trump, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination, may be the first major party candidate to stand trial for criminal actions while campaigning for the presidency.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 33 points 7 months ago

It’s a foregone conclusion that Trump is going to win the Republican nomination. The nightmare scenario for the republicans has to be Trump going in as the nominee and then being found guilty of a felony charge. It won’t bleed off the Trumpists, but it certainly might make the never-Bidens stay home rather than voting for the guy.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump has until Feb. 12 to appeal ruling to Supreme Court

Where his hand picked pack of fascist court majority will reverse the appeals court decision.

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Will they though? It's a dangerous precedent to set and would let Biden make use of the same immunity (not that he's likely to use the opportunity..)

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

If they rule that the President is immune to all criminal proceedings and Biden doesn't immediately execute McConnell I will be disappointed.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 14 points 7 months ago
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago

Chutkan had to reschedule the trial, so they got the delay they were looking for and can now make the obvious judgement that could have been made weeks ago.

Jack Smith is so fucked, I feel bad for the poor guy. He's like Grimes trying to protect us from Homer.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

He really shouldn't be able to run for President after his actions. Good on the courts here.

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago
[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Likely prosecution roadmap. Trump is going to die in Federal custody.

[–] ZhaoYadang@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Bet he never spends a day in custody. He’ll either 1) litigate it all till he dies, 2) become dictator, or 3) flee to Russia.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago

But wait, there's more!