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Why do they consider racism, orientalism and lies disputed long ago "valid criticism". Not even mentioning the lack of humility or a will to learn, just constant snarkiness, smugness and an unrelenting feeling of superiority. Just please, engage with us on equal terms and don't be dismissive.

Edit: Don't go into the comments if you value your day...

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[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

on the contrary, Lemmygrad is a great place to criticize the CPC if you have actual informed criticism, whereas most instances won't allow that since genuine criticism requires acknowledging the many positive aspects of China's leadership

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Literally saw someone in that Beehaw thread talking about "we're a safe space for minorities" and shit complaining that they'd posted up a picture of Winnie the Pooh somewhere and got banned for it. They're literally just western-chauvinist redditors looking for somewhere to piss all over and call theirs.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yo as per our survey, more than 60% of our users don't identify as white, cis het males. Additionally we have users from literally over the world. Waiting to see Beehaw's survey.

Waiting to see Beehaw’s survey.

Some early data

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, actually being the minority here is very reasurring

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Łumało

Is this a transliteration of "wumao"?

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes

Edit: Ł in Polish sounds like W in English.

wow > łał

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[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of the xinnie the pooh edits are racial caricature, ironically enough (skin tone)

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, they're ALL racist charicatures

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's hard to say, since the meme began in China, but the widespread adoption in the US probably was connected to racist appeal

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[–] BelieveRevolt@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

that they’d posted up a picture of Winnie the Pooh somewhere and got banned for it

Fuck around and find out.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I've seen that Winnie... Shit was even AI generated 💀

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never understood why people thought this would be a good thing. Growth for the sake of growth is meaningless. The best way to grow the community is by attracting sane people who are capable of having adult discussions. Focusing on a number of users is misguided. What really matters is sustainability. The only things that actually matter are having enough users to create content, having sustainable development resources, and enough funds for hosting the community.

Having a bunch of radlibs swarm Lemmy doesn't really add any actual value, and creates no end of problems. Thankfully, we can at least mitigate the damage thanks to federation.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree.

Alas the logic of capitalism is like a poisonous fog, seeping into every room.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago
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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yup, seen that thread. I reported some users calling Russians "orcs" and i was actually chastised in PM by mod who apparently think it is normal exchange of political opinions.

EDIT: And while the dehumanisation, bigotry, racism, orientalism etc. etc. comments still stands, this happens:

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

BuGiJu was doing a great job of contributing constructively from what I remember. Absolute bullshit on the mods' part. StalinsMoustache was correct but a bit low-effort and antagonistic, so it was to be expected (though I obviously don't support it).

At least it was only two days for the former, but still bullshit

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They are also doubling down:

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/729033

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/728499

Afaik that particular mod begged himself into modding today and immediately start banning ML's, exactly what ultras always do on reddit.

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/726337

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Wow, that's pretty pathetic

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[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

The problem is mostly 196.

Also some instances like lemmy.world seem to just approve anybody who's making a request to join. So all the idiots go there and then spread to other instances.

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[–] Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

It was always going to end with those losers setting up shop. But hey it's great to see that MLs are making great strides in geopolitics for humanity, and all the bootlickers from reddit can do is troll on lemmy.

They genuinely think flooding lemmy is going to help stop the multipolar world. Think about that for a second - how stupid you have to be and how desperate you have to be to resort to that. So framed in this way, we know that they will go the way of history and that progress marches on, ignoring their tears.

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[–] juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does lemmy.world allow criticism of the CCP?

Am a little confused by your post, comrade. Exactly which SSR are you talking about?

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love you JucheBot1988, that made me chuckle

[–] zeerphling@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People like those in the comments are why I worry about my students from the PRC who want to study in the imperial core.

[–] PunsNRoses@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago

I had a few classmates from the PRC when I was in college. At the time I criticized them and thought they were weird for only keeping to themselves and not wanting to socialize with people outside their group. Now I think I know why they were like that, and i don’t blame them.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be more worried about the savvy propagandists. Idiots in that thread can't even comprehend the perspectives your students would have from actually living in the PRC, so there will most likely just be a communication breakdown.

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[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hadn't thought of it that way. Could you expand on it?

[–] zeerphling@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sure. A little background first, my students are relatively well-off and mostly did not succeed during their time in compulsory education. So, they decided to study outside the PRC, mostly because they had a small chance of making it into the better domestic universities.

Most students, at least at this school, go to either the UK or Australia. Though a few occasionally do go to Canada or the US. Of course, I don't feel comfortable actively dissuading the students from going (they get enough pressure from parents and other staff at the school), but sometimes I wonder if I should.

Anyway, looking at comments that infantalises an entire group of people just because they were born on a different piece of dirt, not to mention downright genocidal rhetoric, makes me think that students from the PRC isolating themselves from that sort of brain rot is a successful self-preservation technique.

Which, while answering the question of "why do Chinese students seem to only stick together." It feels like people who would comment in such a provocative way are just minutes from doing actual bodily harm to others.

But maybe I'm over thinking it and these folks have little or no chance of coming into contact with PRC citizens.

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[–] reazonozaer@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 1 year ago

I just joined here a couple days before the Reddit thing happened. They're bringing all of what I didn't miss from quitting Reddit years ago. At least on the bright side I can mostly stay out of all that here.

[–] Leninismydad@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago

Its a fucking nightmare over there. Left reddit because of this shit sad to see the other instances turning into reddit.

[–] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hope people will realise very soon that the only civilised places will be the ones that make a point of federatimg with lemmygrad, with heavy moderation.

Then, if lemmy.ml and/or lemmygrad fails (allegory to ussr, Moscow), we will have to learn from those experiences and try a few new ones (allegory to Cuba, dpkr, laos) to figure out how to build something nice.

And then maybe some big instance will emerge (allegory to China), carrying lemmy and lemmygrad ideals, slightly off, but possibly with a better understanding of the internets inherent characteristics. And they will be criticised for dishonoring the legacy by people that didn't bother to build their own instance.

That's my humble forecast (and a joke, explanation in parenthesis) slightly inspired by history. Good luck to us all.

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Completely agree 👍. It's how everything should work IMO: try, fail, make better.

[–] BelieveRevolt@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I may have gotten that thread closed by making fun of someone's Winnie the Pooh picture.

[–] Marxine@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oh sheit, I hope lemmy.world don't become a fascist haven... I only joined here for the Genshin community, but I'm glad I have a backup account on lemmygrad.

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