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[–] EpicVision@monero.town 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

uBlock Origin has 36,000,000 users according to Google and ABP has 46,000,000 users. Another 13,000,000 use AdGuard and 67,000,000 use AdBlock (the crappy one, but nonetheless, it blocks YouTube ads).

Also on Firefox there are 7,780,587 uBO users. Checkmate

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I use uBlock origin on firefox. All my devices are always connected through a VPN with all the ad and tracker blocks turned on.

I am a YouTube premium subscriber.

There are dozens of us... dozens!!!

[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Me too! Im a dozen!

[–] GhostMutt@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

Same for me!

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[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Imagine being me and paying for premium and using ublock + revanced.

At the end of the day, I think I get 10 dollars in value a month, and I know hosting data isn't free.

Edit: Right after I submitted I read the comment before me. Sorry about saying the exact same thing again 😅

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Thank you for being this way.

I think platform greed is awful, but I think consumer greed is something that largely goes unacknowledged.

Even though I've been 'over' the genre for more than a decade, I still buy Japanese shmups when they appear on Steam - at one time they could only be found on obscure JP Warez sites, forget legally here. I do it out of a sense of something owed for past joy, and never play the Steam ver.

I'm also hypocritical to a degree. I can only afford to support so much and I don't pay for everything, just what I would have paid for anyways. Perhaps there is some self-satisfying logic built in there lol

[–] EpicVision@monero.town 3 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I wouldn't ever give Google a single penny. Instead, I pay for Nebula, allowing me to watch high quality videos and documentaries while supporting indie creators. And it's just $5/month.

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[–] EpicVision@monero.town 3 points 7 months ago
Chrome Web Store Firefox Add-ons Microsoft Edge Add-ons Opera add-ons Total
uBlock Origin 36,000,000 7,780,587 10,000,000 12,686,907 66,467,494
uBlock Origin Lite 70,000 3,145 3,000 N/A 73,145
uBlock 700,000 N/A ‪10,000 N/A 710,000
AdNauseam N/A 74,478 10,000 210,616 295,094
AdBlock Plus 46,000,000 4,064,146 10,000,000 50,844,211 110,908,357
AdBlock 67,000,000 1,206,627 N/A N/A 68,206,627
AdGuard 13,000,000 1,053,029 8,000,000 10,872,145 32,925,174
Total 162,770,000 14,182,012 28,023,000 74,613,879 279,588,891

Source: Official data from extension stores

This table does not include Safari extensions, browser extensions installed through Linux package managers like the firefox-ublock-origin package on Arch Linux, browsers with built in adblockers like LibreWolf or Brave, modded YouTube mobile apps like Vanced/Revanced on Android, uYou for iOS, alternative frontends like Invidious or Piped, desktop clients like FreeTube, other mobile apps like Newpipe, Libretube or Yattee or other adblocking solutions.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Grayjay, revanced, libretube, newpipe, youtube piped, youtube invidious, and uBlock origin 👀

[–] EpicVision@monero.town 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Then there are actual alternatives Peertube and Odyssey

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[–] darthsid@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (16 children)

Watch how they steadily increase the price now (which they’ve already been doing)

[–] ripley@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It went up like four bucks this month for me this past month. I feel like I am in a no-win situation. I want to support the authors of the videos and music I like, make the platform sustainable, and I hate ads and data harvesting. There doesn't seem to be reasonable way to satisfy all three objectives (or even two).

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago

I'm mostly in the same boat with supporting the creators, however I don't really like Google to be honest. I end up supporting creators outside the platform, such as via Patreon or by watching on Nebula. Most of my YT consumption is done via NewPipe, Piped and Freetube

There's a little part of me that likes the fact that YouTube is burning a hole in Google's finances tbh lol

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Patreon for the ones you really like, and substituting watching my own content on Plex is how I’m weening myself off YouTube.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And it still doesn't have sponsorblock. Free is more feature rich than paid. Hahaha

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Does that work on your phone?

[–] EpicVision@monero.town 6 points 7 months ago

If you use Tubular or Libretube, yes. I think revanced also has some option to enable it.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Yes revanced has it, and some other clients too I think

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[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

How many of those subscribers are like me, definitely watching YouTube from Argentina.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

That's over a billion dollars a month. If they're still operating at a loss with all that then it's their own incompetence at fault.

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[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

marketing tactics to get even more to subscribe, ala "x amount of people got it so it must be good".

Yet it feels like I got better things to spend it on, as I don't watch much anymore due to algorithm changes making me miss the prior new music uploads and or newer channels to discover.

Every refresh contains the same or prior channels watched with the same content shuffled or worse, suggest old dated watched videos.

[–] graymess@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I'm thinking "ey, sounds like they're getting enough money, now maybe they can leave me the fuck alone."

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 5 points 7 months ago

"Enough money" is not a concept they understand unfortunately

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I do have YouTube Premium, because between the ad-free movies and TV shows and the music, the family sharing option was cheaper than Spotify and a couple of streaming services we gave up, and the few new content creators I do watch get paid more. But if they keep raising the price, I'll look for something else.

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] porkchop@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I watch on my television tho

[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] glowie@h4x0r.host 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Wish there is was a webOS variant for LGs

[–] HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago

There is, you can enable dev mode and install the homebrew channel, here's a guide for Dev Mode and here's a guide for the Homebrew Channel

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Get an Onn stick and adapt it to your needs.

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[–] flumph@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

I want the creators I watch on YouTube to continue to get paid, both from YouTube and their sponsors. My contributions through premium are sliver of what they see, but if everyone stopped supporting them in that way, the total would be zero.

I back some of them on Patreon where I can, but it's not economically feasible for me to back them all in such a way.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

This "Article" is short on details, And according to this article Google did not reveal data about subscriptions in the recent earnings call. I can only think this a PR piece to fluff up Google's shares and discourage critics. Unless Google can be confident enough to explain which regions added subscribers and how much of such a subscription was part of a bundle... We can't conclude that their anti-adblocking measures and price hikes were successful.

Example: India would fluff up numbers without adding as much revenue (bundles are common and subscription prices are low) than NA or EU

[–] mihies@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I might even consider it out if they weren't selling me music as well and if there was a family option (in my country). And no, I wouldn't consider VPN as I won't do extra work to be able to pay google.

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[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Found the corporate account. Fuck youtube. Steal that shit.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Their war on ad-blockers must be paying off

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

We can't really tell for sure because:

  1. They left out subscriber numbers in the recent earnings call (according to this article)
  2. Hence, we don't know if the subscribers were from bundles vs. individual subscriptions.
  3. Subscribers could be from low price regions and the revenue there wouldn't compare to NA and EU.
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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I’ll be honest. I did. With a VPN. It costs me $2.50 a month.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I live in a place where its just $2.50. No YouTube ads ever is great.

[–] squid_slime@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I get this same service but for free :3

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[–] celerate@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I looked at it. The features aren't worth the price at all.

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