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There is currently a bug in Lemmy 0.17.4 that causes post rank calculation to stop shortly after the server is restarted. It seems like lemmy.world is affected as well.
You can track this bug here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3076
I pinged Ruud about this, he can restart the server for now for the ranks to refresh, but I am also working on investigating and fixing the root cause.
Well, that explains it. Hopefully it's fixed soon, thanks!
Yeah, the βactiveβ sort also seems broken. I change to top with a day time period or hot. Works much better.
Active works a lot like old forum posts. New comments makes a post more active. Hot is similar to Reddit, though posts do tend to stick at the top for longer than they should.
Edit: Turns out Hot is bugged and stops updating, requiring server restarts. Github issue tracking it.
this explains a lot. on Hot and on Active I see posts with 0 interaction (basically sorting by new). on Top I just see old posts :(
There's a second bug that causes new posts to show up on the top of the feed. That might be what you are seeing. I only see posts with 0 interaction when that happens. It's annoying because right as you are about to click on a post, it'll give shoved down the page as new content flows in.
Luckily, that is being fixed. I don't know when the next release is going to happen, but I saw the code fixing it got merged in recently.
Yeah solution has been to sort by daily top. Not ideal but gets the job done. Really unfortunate timing to have a bug like that with the hot sorting.
daily top means you get the same thing for like 24 hours though
One million percent. Itβs enough to trigger the instinctual βopen Redditβ motion
"Active" is very inactive but "Hot" seems okay. It's a bit slow, too, but not entirely broken.
I'm finding it's much better to sort posts by "hot" than "Active", it seems to more heavily prioritise newer posts. I'd really like to make this my default but I can't work out how to do it - does anyone know if that's possible?
There's a toggle towards the bottom of your profile settings I believe... Here it is in Jerboa
Ah, I'd been staring at that page for ages and missed it. Thank you.
my go to method on reddit ~~is~~ was sorting by subscribed and top day. this way if I've seen everything already I know I've probably spent too much time scrolling and should check out individual communities if I'm trying to kill more time.
I personally view this as a good thing for me (if unintended) - I've realised that I spent waaaay too much time on reddit, so I'm trying to cut down on my use of the platform.
I like lemmy, but I don't want to spend all my time here either. The relatively low volume here makes me realise I should be doing other things.
That said, you can always join more communities - or better yet, contribute to them! Start your own posts!
I do but even on my subscribed front page all the posts are mostly ones I've already seen. It would be kind of cool if we could customize our own front page to control the age of posts that show up I feel
I'll also add that not everyone feels that way and wats to give up their addiction and just want to see fresh content each day.
You might wanna read up on the algorithm Lemmy uses. Specifically this part:
If you're sorting by Active, that means those posts you're seeing are pretty, well, active even if they're a couple days old.
Thanks for sharing that, that's a handy thing to know
I turned off the show read in the account settings. I don't see the articles I'm reading.
My issue with it is it is VERY literal. So like you can't even see the posts in your post history because you've read them. So needs some work still lol.
Yep. On plebbit you were able to actively hide certain posts. I would like posts to remain available on communities I car about.
Not ideal for me. I like to keep tabs on the conversation on post. I will often see a post that is making its way up the page with a few comments and will check back in as I am browsing when it has hundreds.
I used to hide on upvote / downvote, would be cool if Lemmy adds this as an option too
I really miss the ctrl-enter to submit.
Are you sorting by Active? That's why. Use hot, or something.
I sort by hot and have seen the same posts 3 days in a row. I've actually had to completely switch to new to see anything outside of the same posts I've seen for days.
Each client would have to implement it on it own. But marking posts as viewed when scrolled past and hiding them from showing up in the feed again would be a great optional feature
Right now you could turn off read post in settings and browse through All communities with sorting by Hot.
I am a bit split. I too find it a bit annoying to scroll past 80% of the posts. On the other hand, sometimes I see that there are new comments (which lemmy shows) under a post about an interesting topic.
It seems like a lot of people complain about not seeing content but then don't contribute any content themselves. Like, posts are old because there's little new content, so maybe everyone can help contribute to communities. Content doesn't miraculously appear.
There's plenty of new content if you sort by new. This isn't a content issue; it's a bug. But go off I guess.
This. Almost all posts or comments are about "there is no new posts". The fediverse must grown before one can view different posts in any lemmy instance. We need to create content, share our thoughts, pics, a link to some news or articles, or just ask a question.
Hot and active feeds are currently broken for a lot of big instances. It should be fixed in the next Lemmy server version. For now use New or New Comments. Growing pains of being such new software and such a huge, sudden adoption.
I've started sorting by new which has worked out pretty well, I was noticing the same thing though sorting by active/hot - lots of 3 day old threads. Alternatively I'd love to be able to hide read posts in Jerboa.
I'll agree with this. I'm hoping this is just a growing pain; considering the large updates that seem to be happening to lemmy's backend recently, I hope this will be addressed sometime soon.
Didn't Randall Munroe design the ranking system for big R? Maybe he's got some free time later?
What I do is that I usually have my "frontpage" on subscribed-new. This way there is often new content that I find interesting. If I still want more, I check on "local" or "all" also on new and then I can enjoy standing under the waterfall of content. It's fun going about it this way.
I was thinking the same thing. I've been using the filters to go to New and Hot and other things but when someone comes to the front page they shouldn't keep seeing the same posts for many hours or even days. I remember years ago on Reddit they altered the algorithm so that newer posts would show up more frequently on the front page and it was a massive improvement.
In the ios app ( mlem) it defaults to top, so always odler stuff
Me when I want to accelerate the passage of time
I usually sort by new on my subscribed communities if I see that happens, because normally there are some new posts when I came back to check Lemmy. It seems that if I let it sort by Active or Popular, there are a lot of posts that I've already seen that they still have activity.
Apparently in the algorithm time is a multiplier that increases the "gravity" but when the first post everyone saw here a few days ago has 1000 upvotes and everything else has 20-30~ even with the multiplier it stays on top. Those posts were an exception to the normal traffic that beat the algorithm. Maybe if the algorithm was based off of like "if x% above the average post karma for that instance then it gets a bigger time multiplier to increase its gravity over time"
But I think those posts getting upvoted hard-core beat the algorithm and it's going to take forever for them to fall.
