The price raised more than the performance you gain. It's pretty much a solidly bad deal at MSRP. It's also indicative of a poor attitude towards gamers wallets. NVIDIA has cleaned up during the crypto boom, and they're pricing products like that's the new norm.
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It could also be that with nVidia making billions from AI computing, it doesn't hurt them if graphics cards don't sell because they own the market anyways, it doesn't matter. If Radeon sales increase but they still make billions from the enterprise, it still doesn't matter. And Intel doesn't exist in that space.
Given that nVidia is a trillion dollar company even with Ada Lovelace not selling, the company is not being affected. Why sell an $800 card when they can sell a $5000 card?
Gamers need to accept that if gaming GPU's don't sell yet the company has billions of dollars coming in, they have no reason to listen or care about gamers. I strongly condemn nVidia's corporatist attitude, but gamers have to either pay nVidia prices or buy from a different company while nVidia continues to get richer without gamers.
It's primarily because the 3060 TI performs as good (and better for several games) than the 4060 TI for cheaper. There is almost no good reason to buy the 4060 TI.
Pretty much this. Also 4060 uses only 8 PCIe lanes, so if your motherboard happens to support only PCIe 3, the performance will be limited by that.
Probably just general anger over pricing as you mentioned. After conversion and tax, that’s $600CAD for a XX60 level card. I don’t follow this stuff intensely, but I hope people do continue their outrage and apathy towards Nvidia products. I’m sticking with my 2080 until something drastically changes, and if it doesn’t I’ll shift to my consoles.
It's simply barely an improvement over the 3060ti.
If you can get either one for the same price, the 4060ti is the better choice. If there's even a 10% price difference, the 3060ti is a better choice.
I think the main issue is the price point. It's a good card; it's pushes fps, and it's got stable drivers that work with DX9.
But it's only marginally better than the 3060ti (10%), it's only has 8gb of VRAM (which is already starting to matter) on a memory bus that's only half as wide as it's predecessor, and it's has similar performance to the cheaper ($50+CAD at time of writing) 6700xt.
As for the 4070. If the 4060ti is a bad deal, the 4070 is atrocious.
The 4060ti is fine. But the price is a bitter dissapointment, and it seems to be part of a trend where Nvidea tests the limits of what the market will bear.
If you care about rtx performance, the math changes slightly, but I don't, so I didn't consider it in my statement.
It’s really the price. If it was $299 it would be hailed as a god tier card for the money.
Is AV1 encoding of no interest? I can definitely use it for OBS recording streaming TV to watch later.
Also, having an old graphics, long before RT and tensor core, due going years without buying a game because no good first-person single player campaign, I'm only now needing more VRAM. I don't buy a video card every 3 years because the games I have don't push its limits.
Looking at Unreal 5.2, I would say in 3 years it will be normal for a graphics card to have 16GB. I'm talking about a dedicated PC release, not a PC port.
Simply put, if the 2nd from the flag ship aren't coming down back to pre-covid bitcoin level(aka 7~800 range), I might have to abandon PC gaming in the future.
I currently have a AMD 6800XT bought directly from AMD, so slightly over 800 after tax. It should last another 3 years at least. But any new ones(I only look at 2nd in line in terms of performance for each series) are all 1200+ before tax. (7900XT and 4080). And from what I can see in games that I have it's not graphically more impressive than those on PS5 even at max settings.(unless developer provides higher res texture etc compare to the console build) There really is no point chasing the upgrades.
Name me one game that's a must play on PC have significant better graphics wise compare to console one.( not frame rate, we all know properly bulit PC without shit ports usually have better frame rate than console.)
Remember when the 1080 Ti was $700?
Still using my $750 1080Ti
I wanted that but I couldn't afford it, then the prices went up for Turing. Apparently the 4060 Ti beats the 1080 Ti, I'm going to buy the 4060. I've never owned something with 8GB.
One upside, the 4060 is the new $250 1060, I would call the 4060 a good buy. In today's money, the 1060 is $316 USD so a $300 4060 seems like a good buy.
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