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I don't know how they think we're all going to survive with these prices.

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 91 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Groceries will blame inflation and whatnot, yet they're printing record profits.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's because the truth is the other way around. It's the hoarding of record profits by the corporate class what drives the inflation

[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

That’s their point.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ares35@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

somehow these poor struggling grocers can still buy one another for twenty five billion dollars.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

That’s all debt. That isn’t from profits.

Their margins are low and declining.

The point being is the cash grab is further up the line. If it was the grocery stores, we’d see margins increasing. Food has doubled to tripled in many cases and their margins went down.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

overall sales are up, prices are waaay tf up.

gross margins are down slightly, but they're taking that 27.7% (vs 28.1%) from a larger pie.

profits are up.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Grocery has some of the lowest margins of any industry. It’s not your local store milking you and I doubt it’s the local farmer.

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[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Wife has been canning for a few years now and we have a pantry of fruits, veggies, and dehydrated food. She goes to the farmers markets during harvest time and goes to town on entire cases of tomatoes, corn, beans, etc. That will last all year for our family of 5. We also pay a friend to raise a pig on her ranch and butcher that once a year. Just got ours (over 400 lbs!). Pork is A LOT cheaper that way. Haven’t found anyone to go half or a quarter in on a cow. We also would need another deep freezer and don’t really have room for it.

We also meal plan weekly so we only buy groceries for what we need to make meals. That saves a ton of money as you aren’t wasteful as much. Oh and we either do pick up or delivery as you spend more when you’re in the store and see things you want but don’t need.

We make almost everything we can from scratch. Wife recently found a recipe for baked oyster crackers with butter and seasoning on them that make dirt cheap snacks and they’re fantastic. The store brand oyster crackers are $1 for 16oz. That’s almost cheap enough to not make those from scratch too. We haven’t bothered yet.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I've always been interested in the idea of canning, but it's not really a thing in the UK. I know that veg is cheaper and gas is more expensive here than in America but still, surely it costs so much money to can things that you can't be saving much? Is it only worth it if the produce was in season and therefore really cheap?

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Definitely not about cost on the veggies. At best it’s break even compared to the store. It’s more about knowing it’s the veggie and water only. Or seasoning too if you like them a certain way. We’ve found corn to be higher quality too. Plus, where we live peaches are fabulous and better than anywhere else in the country so we get to can the best and control the amount of syrup used so they’re healthier. Sorry Georgia, you don’t actually have the best peaches.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Totally get that. Much nicer to know you're not eating too much processed crap.

Jealous of the peaches!

moving to the country, I'm gonna eat a lot of peaches

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[–] Ramenator@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm making a lot myself too, but I sadly don't have the storage space for large amounts of food. And the homemade goods are often more expensive, unless you can get veggies on the cheap from a farmer

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[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)
  1. Do not buy processed shit

  2. Do buy real food (legumes, vegetables)

  3. I mean it

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago
  1. buy in season vegetables (cheaper)
  2. know the regular prizes, so you can detect real discounts from fake ones
  3. buy in bulk (cheaper)
  4. prepare several days food at once with that bulk and freeze it for later use.
  5. skip expensive food (usually meat) on a regular base when on a budget and bij it only as a treat/for weekends

When you buy in season, there is usually a lower prize as it's in abundance as it's grown in the fields instead of greenhouses. I've seen discounts that were the regular prize but the 'original' prize has been increases to make it seem a discount. When you buy in bulk (say in a 2 person household for 4-8 servings) and prepare in bulk you can freeze in 2 serving potions. (saves preparation time and it saves on groceries runs ;) ) Defrost food in the cooler, which takes about a day to defrost and save a tad on energy for the cooler, Also you save on the preparing side as preparing a 4 serving meal doesn't requires a lot less energy then 2x a 2 serving meal. (including the re-heating of the 2nd meal) Save leftovers. Even half portions can be combined with others to make a fuul (and maybe even interesting) meal.

Also, when you eat meat less often you save a tad (when you eat meat, when you don't the biggest saving is already achieved).

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[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

i'm gonna assume this post refers to the US' prices.

it's definetely noticeable in germany, but i'll manage. my worker's union is currently negotiating prices with my employer, and so far it's looking pretty good.

but i pray for you guys, they really don't seem to make life worth living over there.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Could easily be Canada too

ETA: Here's a good video on Canada's and the states' inflation problems from an outside perspective.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Yes, sorry. I'm in the US.

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[–] ares35@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

with a fair amount of help. food pantry, when i can get there--once or twice a month, for a bag of close or past-date produce and other perishables, and a few other things; and 'leftovers' brought to me by others a 2-3 times a week.

my 'grocery bill' hasn't gone up--because it can't. i spend the same, but get a lot less for it.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Left it all behind and moved to a cheaper country

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

South Korea. As long as you speak English you can become a teacher. Took me about 3 years to become comfortable with the language, at which point you can move on to other careers.

Salary is less but cost of living is way less. Also very fun. Other countries are good too, so take your pick. China is cheaper, Japan is a little more expensive. South Korea is a little grindy, so one of those two might be better. You can also go Europe or Africa if that's your taste.

[–] eldritch_horror@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

food stamps

also, wtf is up with the food co-op?

All the wealthy retired hippies shop there. Their prices are crazy. All the employees make a smidge over minimum. Except the managers make a bit more. But still.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Were vegetarians and don’t buy any prepared foods or much processed food. Inflation hasn’t been uniform. Rice, beans, tofu, and a lot of vegetables are at or near the same price as pre pandemic.

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[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

I haven't reached the point yet where I'm personally dumpster diving, but I have a friend who has an inside connection at a major grocery store. They call when it's time to take out the garbage, set it outside the compactor, and my friend swings by to snag it. It's incredible how much gets thrown out. He preserves what can't be used immediately and gives it away to those who don't have a problem with the source. I've benefited from a 5 lb bag of jerky and a box full of dried fruits, veggies, and other items.

Otherwise, I'm always on the lookout for sales and deals. When I find one I stock up, like the one going on now at Amazon for Sweet Sue canned chicken that worked out to 78 cents for a 5oz can.

I'm fortunate enough to have a few acres and access to water at agricultural rates, so I grow enough produce to supply myself and a few other families that subscribe to my farm-to-home service. It's enough to pay the costs and buy the grandkids some nice presents, but I ain't getting rich off it.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Aldi.

If you have one near you, get your staples from there. It's so much cheaper than Kroger, Costco, Publix, and Target.

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Not sure if it's just me but my grocery spending hasn't changed in the last year. It's definitely more expensive then say 2 years ago but seems like prices have stabilized.

I cook often so most of what I buy are produce and it's generally cheaper than other stuff.

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[–] Terrapinjoe@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Stay away from prepared foods and buy more cheap staples like rice, beans, and potatoes. Shop the meats that are the best price per pound and know the highs and lows of fresh fruits and veggies to get better deals. Beef and fish have been basically unaffordable lately while pork and chicken have been more reasonable.

The prepared foods and snacks are getting ridiculous. A half gallon of cold brew coffee is up to $7. I can make it myself for a fraction of that, but it's more labor for me. A bag of cool ranch doritos was going for $7 a bag... I chose some cheaper chips I don't like as much, but got 2 bags for $4.50. A can of pad-Thai sauce is $12 at my grocery...

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, chips are outrageous. I simply stopped buying them.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A half gallon of cold brew coffee is up to $7. I can make it myself for a fraction of that, but it's more labor for me.

I mean, only a little bit of labor. Even with premium grounds, I can't imagine it costing more than 50 cents to make a half gallon. As for labor, just throw it all in a pitcher, give it a quick shake or stir, then leave it in the fridge for a couple of days. Pour it through a standard filter. I use the basket from my regular coffee maker.

Making your own cold brew is one of the most cost-efficient DIY foods out there.

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[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

I buy staples as cheaply as I can, and most other things I only buy on sale. Plan my cooking for the week around that.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Buy in bulk.

Buy lots of dried beans, rice, etc. (living in earthquake land, I like to keep our canned goods fairly stocked and just rotate out old ones only).

Buy from farmers markets when available, frozen veg when not.

Buy whatever the supermarket is trying to get rid of. In Japan, I end up with mystery seafood a fair amount, but just about anything is fine fried or in a stew.

Stay away from things out-of-season and pre-prepared foods.

Use any space you have to grow something. Even in my Tokyo apartment, I was growing herbs and chilis.

The above helps. I think everyone has some thing they don't want to give up and that's fine. When I first got out on my own in the US, I ended up surviving off of whatever I could get at the restaurants I worked at and boxed, instant mashed potatoes from the dollar store.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 10 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Meat = almost eliminated from my diet except for frozen ground chicken that's 10 dollars.

Potato chips = replaced by crackers, much cheaper.

Vegetables = all frozen now

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[–] Ainiriand@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fortunately for us we make a lot of money so we don't look at prices.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago

Starting with as raw an ingredient as I can. Processed foods adds a lot to the price per calorie. So I start with raw ingredients which is a ton cheaper, and then cook it from there.

Plus my stuff tastes like I want so that’s great.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I continue to be spoiled by Costco's low prices. Seriously, check them out if you can.

I also imagine that similar wholesale clubs also have lower prices, but I cannot say from 1st hand experience.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Rice, brother. Lots of rice.

[–] DuckPuppet@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Hallowed is the Aldi.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I've been searching for lentil recipes.

[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I found this one on an old man's Instagram account. It was really nice! I subbed some of the stock for a can of IPA.

Lentil Soup Recipe

Ingredients:

1 tablespoon of olive oil
1 chopped onion
4 cloves of chopped garlic
3 medium carrots, chopped
2 stalks of celery, chopped
2 tablespoons of tomato paste
1 can of diced tomatoes
1/8 teaspoon of crushed red pepper flakes, or more to taste
1/4 teaspoon of cayenne pepper, or more to taste
1 teaspoon of smoked paprika
1 teaspoon of cumin
1 teaspoon of chili powder
1 teaspoon of salt
6 cups of chicken stock
1 cup of red lentils, rinsed and drained
1/2 cup of yellow lentils, rinsed and drained

Instructions:

Heat 1 tablespoon of olive oil in a large saucepan over medium heat.
Add onions and garlic and cook until the onion is translucent, about five minutes.
Stir in the carrots and celery and cook until the vegetables are tender, about eight more minutes.
Stir in your tomato paste, crushed red pepper, cayenne pepper (if you decide to use), salt, black pepper, smoked paprika, cumin, and chili powder.
Mix in your lentils and chicken stock.
Bring to a boil and then reduce heat to low and simmer until the lentils are soft, about 40 minutes.

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My local grocery chain has decent coupons, and a debit card with cash back on their brand of products, so I've been making a lot of use out of those.

Been buying a lot of large orders of cheap dry goods that can last a while like rice and beans. Some rice, some beans, throw some cheese and some sauces in there, get creative with some seasonings, and you can make some pretty bomb-ass burritos at home for super cheap. I'm not vegan/vegetarian, but I often make them without any meat (but use some "meaty" seasonings), and you can easily just skip the cheese if you wanna make it vegan, I suppose.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Decent cost of living wage increase, then switched jobs to higher pay on top of that. But I was never struggling to pay for food. Housing is the big one in my budget. But I have a fixed rate mortgage so inflation has not affected that.

Seems like prices have stopped increasing much lately too so I haven’t given it as much thought as a year ago.

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A great addition to the already awesome tips here is having room mates. You're never too old to shack up with friends or family and save. It's only logical, it cuts down on waste, and makes you grow to be a better person and communicator in adulthood, something the world could always use more of.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

it's become very normal for people to live with their parents well into their 20s until they've completed their apprenticeship around hamburg, can't speak for any other places though.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I shop at Aldi, buy only basic ingredients (as little prepared foods as possible), and eat less. Snacks are basically out, though I may get peanuts from time to time.

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