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Posting this here because I'm unsure of where else to post something like this.

Over two years ago at this point I mutually ended a nearly year long relationship with someone I was still in love with. We were graduating high school and while still going to colleges in the same city, realized we were in over our heads and were in an unhealthy situation so we split it off. It destroyed me. It took me a year to get my shit together (I went on a minor drug-binge for about 3 months after and spent probably $6k from eating out and making sure I always had enough bud) but I eventually met my current partner. Things aren't perfect in our relationship but I genuinely love her and we work to further strengthen our relationship. I don't know that I see the rest of my life with her, but we've been together over a year now and I don't have any intention of ending things anytime soon. We also live together so making it work is more of a necessity lol.

But I can't get my ex out of my head. I've spent nearly every day for the last two years trying to let go of her but I don't know why she keeps popping into my thoughts. I don't love her, I don't want to be with her, I don't want her in my life. And ahe isn't, but I'm still dealing with this. I do have a therapist who I've talked at length with about this but I don't know, something about her just is stuck in my head. Maybe I preferred sex with her? I doubt it but she did kinda define what I consider my "type", so maybe it's just she's more unromantically attractive to me? But it feels so much deeper than that. If it were those shallows reasons I feel like it would've been easier to debug and diagnose. She was my best friend. One day she was in my life, the next day not. It feels like a very specifically sized puzzle piece is missing and now there's a small hole in the puzzle.

I don't know, it's kinda maddening. I don't have most social media, so it's easier to avoid her online and not think about her. But occasionally I find myself borderline stalking her, except it's just me gathering random information I already know from OSINT tools with no intention or idea on how to utilize it (I'm well aware of how to use OSINT data, I mean in this specific situation). Part of it just feels like someone really important to me was rapidly removed from my life and I yearn to reconnect with them, but I guess I fear what such an endeavor might reawaken in me. I don't love her, at least I don't think I do. If I do it would be monumentally fucked up and I would feel like I'm emotionally cheating on my partner, who is somewhat aware of this issue but thinks I have it figured out (I thought I did too; I'm not knowingly lying to my partner). I don't know, I sent them a proper goodbye email a few months ago and thought that was that but it's clearly not. And I've put so much time and effort into trying to wrap it up for myself but now it feels like I'm just lost and stuck. Part of me just wants to reach out and ask if we can get a cup of coffee, but the other part of me recognizes the red flags in that immediately.

I just want to be done with this. I want my brain to get it through itself thar it's over. It's been over. There's no changing the past, and if I could, I don't think I would've reached the point where I am in life with my current opportunities if we had stayed together. Part of why we broke up was because as I was learning how to sell pot (which I was never very good at), I became a massive stoner (which I am very good at). She wasn't anti-weed but didn't appreciate it. When eventually saw that us growing apart was hurting each other and decided to leave things behind. Being young and dumb, I didn't handle the breakup well. I didn't do anything bad or harmful to her or anyone else, but it was obvious to both of us that I wasn't okay afterwards. When I feel like I needed her the most, she was gone from my life. In doing so she broke our promise of prioritizing our friendship over the relationship. I don't really know. I understand a lot of the reasons why I'm hurt and some are justified some are not. I understand the role I played and the responsibility I had in hoe things ended. I was not a great partner in a lot of instances, and neither was she. But part of me wonders if we had met now what it would be like. But I wouldn't have been who I am now without her and without being without her. I'm just so fucking unsure man.

I'm sorry if this is really rambly. I expect that the majority of answers will probably be to just get over it already, which I'm trying to do. I just don't feel like it's the right thing to ask to see her again, because that feels like an eventual mistake rather than closure. Idk, tell me I'm an idiot or an asshole to my current partner or something. I just want to be done with dealing with the legacy of a long-dead relationship.

TL;DR: Mutually ended a significant relationship when I wasn't ready. Been kinda fucked since. Want to not be fucked so I can be a better partner. I suck for this.

Edit: Thank you to everyone who has commented thus far. A lot of the discussion has been really helpful and I've got some new leads on how to debug this issue. I'm trying to respond to everyone and I can't express how appreciative I am.

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[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It sounds less like you're missing your ex, and more like that you're disappointed in the fact that the relationship failed. It sounds like you built up an expectation of your relationship with your ex, and when that ended up falling through, you feel let down. And it sounds like you can't decide whether to put the blame on her or yourself.

If I'm reading that correctly, I think the best thing to do is to acknowledge this fact, that the issue is not that you're missing the relationship, but that you're struggling with the emotional letdown when your relationship ended up being less ideal than you initially planned. Because if you keep thinking that the issue is that you're missing her subconsciously, you're going to get led to the wrong solutions. For instance, putting blame on you or her isn't going to solve the actual issue.

If we take this premise to be true, then I think addressing the real issue probably comes down to thinking about what your expectations were and thinking about how the relationship was never going to meet those expectations from the beginning (based on the examples that you gave). Ultimately, I don't know your situation, and I'm not a therapist. But that's my interpretation of what you wrote

[–] erev@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Holy shit dude that's not a perspective i had considered before. that's massive damn. i need to chew on this for a sec but i genuinely appreciate this. i think your analysis is very accurate and helps me reframe the issue. it would explain why i feel like im making so little progress, because I'm not debugging the actual issue. thank you again!

[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This was kind of an eye opener for me as well. I've had a hard time of letting go of some of my exes, and I always wondered why. What you said coupled with the fact that I sometimes have a habbit of idealizing a relationship and fanatsizing about what it would look like 3, 5, 10 years from now, is at the root of the problem, but I never framed it like that.

Thank you for the words of wisdom 👍. I am past those relationships, but I never figured out why it took me so long to get over them.

[–] toastynugs@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are times in life when we don't get closure and never will. Coming to peace with this can be challenging. Do what you can to enjoy time with the ones you love. Time makes it easier but there's no guarantee for closure, ever. Enjoy life the best you can. Keep going.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

By building context.

Other, new experiences with other, new people. Are they better? Worse? Comparable?

You won't know what it is like or what it even means to be "over" it until you have an idea of something else that will work for you.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I am in the healthiest relationship of my life with someone I genuinely love and appreciate, which makes these feelings all the worst. I think thanks to our fellow lemmings, i have some good ideas on how to progress forward. But the strategy you outlined is what helped me get to this point, so thank you for your perspective!

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 12 points 9 months ago

I know it's kind of a given, but this is truly something that therapy can be great for.

[–] Damaskox@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always write when I feel bad enough.

I wrote down about my bad feelings. I wrote a letter I pretended to send them - it helped a lot.
I created a tool I used to see where on my way on healing I was. I used a clicker to measure amounts of thought I had about them and made a chart out of it (It was awesome to see how the thoughts dwindle to nothing with time)!

You can also talk about it with friends, family and strangers.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do journal and I try to talk about it when it seems appropriate. I do like your idea of the clicker though!

[–] Damaskox@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yay! Discussing hardship as well as sharing the good stuff with folks can help if you have someone that fits around!

[–] erev@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I am with a wonderful and amazing partner which is why I feel so bad dealing with this particular issue. I really appreciate the support.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If this was a highschool relationship my advice would be to just wait. I was devastated when I broke up with my highschool sweetheart but every year it became less important.

Breaking up is something you learn to do just like anything else. In my case I found out the person I grew into isn't someone the person I was seeing would have loved and the person I am now isn't someone who would love the person I used to date. Now all the emotions I had and all the things that I thought were important seem trivial

Hope this helps, and don't stalk it makes you weird and everything you're experiencing worse.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My rule of thumb is it takes one year of grief for every year invested in a relationship. The fact that it's been two years for a one year relationship is a bit concerning.

[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I'm not so sure on that rule. It's not like I experience a set time period of grief after a relationship ends that's half as long as the relationship lasted. It usually comes in waves. A bad week, dreams or even a certain smell might trigger a moment of grief that could last from minutes to weeks. As time passed they happen less frequently, last less time and have less emotional impact but they still happen. I wouldn't suggest that it's out of the ordinary to be having these feelings if they are occurring 2 years after the end of a 1 year relationship.

Different people will move on at different rates and that's okay. Just do your best to keep yourself healthy (mentally and physically). If you are struggling with moving on and you think it's actively harming your health it is crucial to seek some form of therapy however.

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[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I’ve been with my current partner for 15yrs and I’m still not over my ex. I just got used it.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i think this is what I'm trying to avoid, sorry.

[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think my point is that you can’t really avoid it. You can just learn to move on. Moving on takes many shapes and one of them is being ok not being with who was once special to you. There will be new people, new faces, new life events and you get used to life as times moves forward. Or you can just get stuck in the story of your past and let that be a burden to your present and future. There is one tale that comes to mind: two celibate monks reach a river. As they reach to cross it, a woman is seeking help to cross it too but is afraid she’ll drown. One of them refuses categorically to help due to their vow of celibacy. The other doesn’t say a word and carries her on his back to the other side of the river bank. Without saying a word he lets her down and the two monks carry on on their journey. After a short while, the first monk says to the other “how could you help that woman back there? We took a vow of celibacy!” And the other replies ‘’huh? That woman went off my back at the river crossing. Why are you still carrying her?”.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I moreso mean that I want to avoid the situation where I'm not over my ex. I want to make concerted efforts to not hold onto the past like that, and I have. I appreciate the parable though, it was nicely insightful!

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[–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Some really good advice here and people really tried, wow, just really surprised that not all people on Lemmy are tech geeks... cuz, I have to say that I do have a hard time interpreting situations and emotions and knowing that I can write about my problems and have a bunch of people really get into the issue and give really good advice, that really really means a lot 😊.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I wasn't sure I'd get good advice as on Reddit I had gotten really mid results, but the lemmings have really stepped up. Hopefully I've provided as deep of responses as people have commented. I really appreciate everyone's insight.

[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Over time it doesn’t get any easier, the pain just gets further away.

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[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been in your shoes. I nearly married my ex that cheated on me. You know what happened? Like you I tried to move on and ended up meeting my wife while my ex was trying to reconcile. She admitted that she screwed up and that we should start over. I ended up snubbing her in favor of giving my now-wife a shot. Almost 16 years later and it was the best decision I ever made relationship-wise. My mistake was thinking my ex was the only one for me.

It's okay to not have the answers. It's okay to take time to figure this out for you. But you need to understand that if your ex hurt you when you really needed them, that's not the person that is going to be by your side at all times - they failed that check already. Life is short and fleeting - don't waste your good years hoping something will manifest itself through all of the past drama. You're fantastic and someone is DEFINITELY out there that will appreciate you for exactly who you are.

There's lots of fish in the sea, and potentially there might be several people out there that might be the one - give this one a chance!

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You keep thinking about them, because you have yet to find someone, who can satisfy the feelings you used to experience. Completely distancing yourself first is a correct step. You know what to do, you just need to do it. Meeting new people, let alone at a level of connection like this, is quite difficult, so try to fill your time with hobbies. The more involved, the better

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[–] mateG@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't think this is something that unusual (or at least I hope so lol). This is someone that played a significant role in your life, that from one day til the next is suddenly not there anymore. For me this felt a bit like a part of my everyday life just died. Although I'm not sure how much you can compare this to the grief from death I feel like there are some similarities.

As others have already said, it does get easier with time, where at some point you will probably notice that you haven't thought about her for some days and then from there on the times where you think about her get further and further apart.

I know that for me I also had some underlying issues that really exacerbated the situation in a bad way. Therapy helped here so much. Not trying to say that you necessarily need therapy, but if you think that you may also have some underlying issues I really think that this will help immensely.

Hope you can work through this and can get happier with your current situation and partner.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I appreciate your insight. I am in therapy and it has helped a lot, it's just the progress on this particular issue has been slow. I'm used to a lot more rapid and iterative development when working on myself and this has just taken forever to debug. Sometimes for a period of time I do stop thinking about her, but eventually she enters my thought space and I guess because I still have so many associations to her, when my brain pulls random information for whatever the context is she ends up getting pulled as well. fuck me that's gonna take a while to properly fix haha. I definitely have underlying issues but that's where i tend to use the rapid, iterative development so i have a good handle on those for the most part.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

For me this felt a bit like a part of my everyday life just died

Totally unrelated, but a friend opened up about his feelings about his fiancee's sudden death a couple months prior. He said sometimes he's just going about his day, and something awesome happens, and he thinks "I can't wait to come home and tell Hannah!".. but then a moment later he remembers that Hannah is gone.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Therapy. Seriously. It will help with everything.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I am in therapy. It has helped tremendously but it's not a silver bullet.

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