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They'll kill it off eventually. old.reddit is on the chopping block next.
In my head I see them clipping the RSS off. One of the "reasons" for the price hike was to keep AI bots from scraping the site and I assume RSS is one of those ways?
I don't think the comments are available via RSS, and that's a chunk of Reddit's usefulness.
They would 100% do it. No doubt.
The only thing you get out of rss is the title of the post, and a link to the post comments and whatever the external link was (if it wasn’t a self post).
I've moved over to Beehaw purposefully and while this is a nice feature, the point is to get away from Reddit. The majority of content produced there come from links from other websites. It's just a matter of rebuilding and discussing those things in new networks :)
A lot of it is also the moderation of certain subreddits though that's not easy to replicate elsewhere. For instance most subreddits dedicated to football (soccer) clubs maintain a tier list of journalists based on their reliability and will only allow reputable sources to be posted on the subreddit.
That's quite frankly a lot of bullshit that I would otherwise have to sort through myself to get the same information on transfer movements and news
That might not work as you think it would because the rss feed does not include the discussions. For that you need to visit reddit, and discussions are what make reddit what it is. I'd much rather if they migrate here, but if that's not possible, at least if we have a bot crossposting stuff from there to here, so that we can have our own discussions going on that topic.
half the fun is repeating the same jokes from r/whothefuckup
I'm completely new to this whole lemmy thing, but I'm hoping it can take off and grow to be a diverse and varied reddit alternative. Seeming really cool so far.
There are some subreddits that I really will miss and hope to see them come over to the lemmy-verse, but I think in the long run if lemmy can grow enough, I'll be content with the content (ha)
I'm foreseeing a large influx of people testing out the lemmy waters in the next week. I knew the CEO was a POS but waited to see what he had to say to the Apollo claims. Pretty much sealed it for me. This can be a big site/service if the people use it. I was around for the fall of Digg, and hopefully the fall of Reddit.
Be the change you want to see. Don't wait for your shit to arrive. Bring it yourself.
Even reddit wasn't this full of niche esoteric subs over night and a lot of that subdivision had to happen because the main subreddits got too big and full of noise. You can still try and foster discussion in larger instances with broader topics and likely get a few bites for discussion while the more niche stuff takes off.
Until Reddit stops offering RSS
Nail -> coffin.
I do this with Inoreader. I subscribe to the Top Week RSS for each subreddit. It looks like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/top/.rss?t=week
This cuts down my usage to only the most important/popular topics. It helps me waste less time and gets rid of the addicted feeling where you're sitting there refreshing the front page seeing the same things you saw five minutes ago repeatedly.
Because I know there's only going to be 'x' number of posts each day from each Reddit I find myself engaging with them more carefully, more mindfully. And when the feed runs out, I go read a book or do something else. It's very freeing. I'm setting up Lemmy to be the same.
Yes the push-based approach of getting content with RSS is truly great. It is a bit of a shame that RSS got niche, even though most media sites still provide feeds fortunately.
This is somewhat of a workaround, but it doesn't include what I actually use reddit for; the engagement. By that I mean comments, upvotes and users.
I'd rather use my social media time on a platform like what we're on now and use Google when I need to find an answer to some question that might be answered on Reddit.
My only hope is that it doesn't turn into Voat and get overwhelmed with fringe view conspiracy cookers and go to poop.
This is my concern. That being said, I don't think that's quite as likely to happen because the reason for Voat's creation was fundamentally different. The Lemmy exodus is because of API changes and the treatment of Apollo's creator, while Voat was created as a result of a crackdown on hate subreddit (/r/fatpeoplehate was the big one, but this was years ago so I might be misremembering things).
That being said, I do specifically remember that the driving force behind the Voat push was "free speech." I'm pretty sure we know who screams the loudest about free speech at the expense of all else, and it looks like Beehaw at least was created with the core idea of being against that crowd. So, while I can't speak for Lemmy as a whole, I'm trying to at least be optimistic about Beehaw, since the reason for the exodus is completely different from the Voat exodus,meaning the migrants will have a different composition.
I think that because Lemmy is federated it has a strong defense against becoming Voat. Sure, there will be some instances that pop up that allow/tolerate that shit but then other Lemmy instances can just block them!
I've always loved rss. It's the best way to get news if you don't want to use Reddit or Twitter and want one place with different sources.
Same, and it's an open standard. We need to take the web back to open platforms and standards.
It works, but feels dirty..
Remember that Chrome extension for YouTube that would replace YouTube comments with a Reddit comment thread instead? Couldn't you do something similar between Reddit and a Lemmy instance? Scrape all the posts like this RSS feed but replace the comments with Lemmy comments?
There are so many reddit alternatives, I really hope some alternative will come up on the top and I surely hope that reddit fails massively.
While I agree with you it will be sad to see some of the small communities I'm a part of die, maybe some of them will rescurrect, but I have my doubts on some of them, very niche stuff where it's hard to gather together people.
I know it's all about "engagement" but I feel like this is still driving traffic to the site. Which is kinda the opposite of leaving it.
The same works with .json at the end if you want to consume it in JSON format. In fact, that's exactly what some of the third party Reddit apps do until the day.
However, I just want to mention that it is just a question of time until Reddit will shut down this feature. As soon as they introduce their new API pricing, they need to force users into using their new APIs instead of using this kind of workaround from old Reddit times. So better do not rely on this to work any longer.
At least the .json endpoints count as api for reddit
Will this affect the inherent
.jsonrepresentation of all Reddit pages? (e.g. https://www.reddit.com/.json )
Yes,
.jsonendpoints are considered part of our API and are subject to these updated terms and updates.
I've typed and deleted a bunch of comments on Reddit the last few days. I will no longer participate. I will only use old reddit or rss feeds and consume it.
I've replaced all my comments with this:
This comment has been erased in protest of Reddit's recent API changes. For more details, read this open letter As an alternative to reddit, I have moved to Lemmy. Consider signing up on smaller instances to prevent larger instances from crashing; you can still interact with communities from any instance.
hopefully people that aren't super aware of what's going on because they only find reddit through search results see this
but you're still "visiting" it. It is just your reader that makes the https request instead of your browser. In their logs and stats you are still visible. The only difference is that you will have a user-agent that shows that it is an RSS reader instead of a browser. Like:
"GET /atom.xml" 304 0 "Feedly/1.0 (+http://www.feedly.com/fetcher.html; 16 subscribers; like FeedFetcher-Google)"
And while you've the RSS reader open it while make requests periodically so we're talking for multiple visits as well.
It's so good to see Beehaw taking off. I hope it endures. I'm giving it a little more time then I'm closing account on all corporate social media for good.
I hope beehaw overtakes lemmy.ml. Seems like a really nice instance.
I’ve been thinking about it. I do hope Beehaw grows enormously to be vibrant and diverse and lively, but it’s OK too if in the end it’s not the ultimate, humongous, massive instance. Maybe there’s such a thing as a community that becomes too big. There’s something precious about "human scale" places.
Now I wonder if it's possible to 'link' RSS feeds with ActivityPub. I guess it's always possible to have a bot make Lemmy posts from the feed.
Yea ... bridges should be possible in theory ... which would be interesting.
Also, just in case you didn't know ... lemmy communites also provide RSS feeds (look for the icon at the top of a community page).
The inventor of RSS theorised not long ago that the fediverse would be glued together by RSS. They're obviously biased, but still an interesting idea, especially given that fediverse apps are struggling somewhat with how the platforms all have different APIs
RSS seems really handy tbh, and yet I've never gotten around to ever using it. I looked up what the term was, went 'oh neat' and continued to ignore each time the RSS icon appeared on a webpage.
Maybe I should look into an RSS reader. Seems I could pull from multiple different sources and curate something far more interesting/relevant to me than, say, Google's 'Discover' page.
Can anyone recommend a good rss reader program for windows? Not something browser based and bonus points if it has offline capabilities.
Thanks!
I’ve considered that this might be a helpful tactic for NSFW communities — leave the moderation on Reddit and just bring content over here 🤷