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Hey all. Since the Internet has just been boiled down to the main big social media sites, it feels like the magic is gone. Whens the last time someone said to you "hey check out this cool website"? It's always the same: TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, FB, Reddit, Discord. Forums are basically dead. Chat rooms are dead. Message boards are dead.

I miss that feeling of just discovering interesting or quirky websites. Lemmy is cool because it feels fresh and new, and there's not a boat load of users here yet. But what other sites do you guys use or can recommend? I remember browsing Joe cartoon, Newgrounds, weebls, Ebaums, failblog, damnlol, and a bunch of other stupid but either funny or interesting sites.

Are there sites out there that still have that early Internet vibe? I feel like there is a treasure trove of still active websites out there but I have no idea what they are. Any recommendations would be GREATLY appreciated.

Edit: I created !oldweb where these sorts of sites can be shared!

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[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yo, a couple years ago I had become fed up with the state of the modern Internet, and I started looking for alternatives. This is what I have found so far:

  • Gopher protocol (sdf.org is pretty active)
  • Gemini protocol (Modern version of gopher)
  • Shared UNIX systems (also called tildes) sdf.org is great!
  • RSS
  • IRC/Matrix to chat with people
  • Session messenger to chat with family
  • BBSes via syncterm
  • wiby.me and marginalia.nu search engines to find personal web sites
  • oldavista.com to browse the 'Old Net'
  • Web forums
  • Neocities
  • Webrings (They still exist!)
  • Lemmy (This is a new one)

The next step for me will be to build my own personal site. The only way to keep the independent web alive is to participate in it.

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey, this is great. Thank you. I have actually just created a community here !oldweb if anyone is interested. Just a place to share these sorts of sites and lists etc.

[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice, is there a way for me to sub from a different instance? If not, I can create an account on lemmy.ml.

[–] cavemeat@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

there is, but you have to search for the name of the sub directly.

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[–] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have a look at Neocities (a successor to Geocities). My website is here.

You can also have a look at the rest of the Fediverse. There are some cool accounts on Mastodon and PeerTube.

For that true "old web" thing, have you ever heard of gemini? Take a look. My capsule on gemini is here, but you will need a gemini browser in order to see it.

Hope this helps!

[–] calcifer@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But does neocities have neopets?

[–] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

If NeoPets are what I think they are, yes.

This site lets you create a "GifyPet".

[–] Gmork@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Asking the REAL questions!!! Lol

[–] vrojak@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's wiby, a search engine indexing older style pages. I sometimes go there, just hit the random button and explore wherever I end up.

I'd also recommend marginalia, it's a search engine that favors text heavy websites. Fantastic for research and/or older style websites.

[–] calcifer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Very very interesting

[–] gzrrt@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use the best search engine on the internet: https://search.marginalia.nu/

The 'random' page is especially good to start off with.

[–] readbeanicecream@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

I prefer to use "plain text" versions of sites if available:

I also try to use reader mode in my browser whenever I can.

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't run in exactly the same internet circles that you did, but I do still crave the sense of discovery of the early web. A few months ago, I put together a list of "old web" on-ramps to sate the hunger.

Neocities is a big hub for weird web sites that aren't trying to make a buck. For me, that's the key. What's the motivation for this web site? Is someone trying to sell me something, or do they love this thing they're talking about so much, their enthusiasm has spilled out onto the internet?

[–] Gmork@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this! I have been plowing through your links throughout the day. I found some fantastic stuff and a rush of nostalgia.

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just read all the info on your link and this is mind blowing. I could spend hours just going through all the various links.

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That's awesome to hear! I can identify because I did spend hours going through them all! πŸ˜… It was really fun! Took me back to that time. The stuff is still out there… it's just hard to find because search engines don't care about it.

[–] technopagan@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

gamecopyworld.com still looks as awesome as ever since the times I used diskettes to transfer a No-CD crack from the local library's Internet-enabled PC to my offline PC at home, ca. 25 years ago.

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Holy crap, I had totally forgotten GameCopyWorld! Thank you for this!

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[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want old school and quirky, check out https://www.windows93.net/ A little less quirkier version of this is https://windows96.net/

[–] klemptor@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

check out https://www.windows93.net/

Oh man, I have the feeling I'm going to waste so many hours of my life here haha

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See also Infinite Mac and PCjs, which emulate a vintage computer in your browser and have disk images of various operating systems and applications from the '80s and '90s.

Infinite Mac uses several pre-existing Mac emulators like Basilisk II, compiled to WebAssembly, whereas the PCjs emulators are written from scratch in JavaScript. Interestingly, this demonstrates the advantages of WebAssembly, as Infinite Mac is significantly faster.

[–] jgoerzen@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

The Tildeverse! https://tildeverse.org/ Check it out. A bunch of multiuser systems, with services ranging from IRC to Usenet and Mastodon. Many Tildes support Gopher and Gemini homepages, there's Tildeverse Radio, and all sorts of things.

[–] darkfoe@lemmy.serverfail.party 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No specific recommendation from myself, but I've found a lot of the more "personal" feel of the internet has gone underground, ie, off search engines. A lot in discord, some in matrix, and some showing up here. Odd one still on IRC, but that's slowly shifting to discord/matrix

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, this is the problem. Search engines used to be a way to find stuff. They slowly evolved into more and more effective platforms for monetizing internet users, meaning the only content you can effectively find now is content that's selling something (or perhaps content that is selling you).

Breaking out of that bubble can reveal that content that isn't built for selling is still there. It's just like you said: it's gone underground. Not by choice but because the ground got moved.

Yeah, hopefully the explosion of Lemmy and Mastrodon leads to more of the message board level of the internet, only without having to maintain five gazillion accounts and checking them daily for new content. That era was pretty nice and was indexed well by search engines.

[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That was poetic!

[–] Laille@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, what do you mean by in matrix? Never heard of it before.

Matrix is basically federated discord. It's to discord what Lemmy is to reddit

[–] r3d5un@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I like Hacker News for technology and programming news.

[–] Billy_Gnosis@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

There's many reasons why the old web nearly disappeared, but I think the main two are cell phones and social media. Combine those two things with giant corporations trying to monetize everything and this is where we end up. The old internet was awesome.

[–] moonleay@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you are interested in technology and or programming, you might want to have a look at Hacker News. It's a news aggregator for everything that involves technology and there are many interesting sites linked there on a daily basis.

[–] Icarus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

also, if you use RSS reader, you can add hackernews to it by using hnrss

[–] Xero@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

I use reddit mostly because it's a link aggregator for the non-gaming stuff that interests me. Apart from that it's Ars Technica, Slashdot, or Techmeme.

[–] aio2@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

vimm.net is really cool for older game ROMs and just has a classy feel to it :)

[–] willow@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Metafilter is very old school in a good way! http://metafilter.com/

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[–] solairusrising@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Something Awful is still alive and kicking

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, some of my favourite sites are niche interest groups. One I've contributed at lot to (even creating a magazine for) has between 5 and 10 active users in total. They're just so comfy.

And yes, some of my favourite sites are the ones you may look at and declare dead :)

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Care to list some of your faves? :)

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'd rather not, just because they have a spam problem which isn't under control yet, and we're talking NSFL spam.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wasn't failblog like really really dumb, like a worse 9gag?

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

To be fair, yeah. I can't remember if it was fail blog or some other fail site to be honest. But back then I was into dumb shit.

[–] housefinch@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Usernet is still around but the only active ones I can think of involve book or game piracy.

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I do usenet but purely for downloading tv and movies with Sonarr and Radarr.

[–] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Ever since Tickld went to shite, the internet hasn't been the same for me. Oh how I miss those days.

[–] anonymous8900T@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

There are places that embrace the old. For instance, I discovered micro.blog not too long and and I'm loving it. Not to mention the federation and all of their instances (micro.blog works with mastodon)

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