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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 42 points 9 months ago

Don't forget the "legitimate interest" cookies that you can't even disable because the dickheads selling the ads think the law doesn't apply to them!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Clicks no.

Website forgets your option. Asks again.

Damn it. Can you just remember that one cookie thing? Where's that option?

[–] dukk@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

Some websites allow “strictly necessary cookies”…those work on some websites.

[–] SoyTDI@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Reject button...but you have to pay to use it.

[–] Suspicious_Bee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That is now actually the case in Spain, some pages make you either accept cookies or pay a subscription fee to remove them. For example, 3djuegos makes you either accept cookies for 799 partners, or pay 2€/month to reject them

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, lots of pages are trying to pull that stunt, which isn't legal according to the GDPR. Facebook and many news outlets are trying it too.

I filed a complaint about Facebook with my local data protection agency, which agreed and forwarded the case to Ireland. Well see whether Ireland conforms to the GDPR.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

CNIL (French privacy body) ruled that it was legal except for government websites. A lot of French newspapers do it.

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wow... How did they argue that consent was still "freely given"? And also that it is "as easy" to give as it is to withdraw consent?

Relevant quotes:

Consent should not be regarded as freely given if the data subject has no genuine or free choice or is unable to refuse or withdraw consent without detriment.

It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They say it's legal, as it is a viable alternative to tracking, but has to be a reasonable amount.

https://www.cnil.fr/fr/cookie-walls-la-cnil-publie-des-premiers-criteres-devaluation

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Damn... That is very disappointing.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If people wouldn't just accept it, which unfortunately they will do, this would make me the happiest man.

It would kill so many shitty places because people would only pay for the good ones, oh man I would be so happy less shitty, autogenerated, copy paste stuff on the web and search results and more quality content.... Unfortunately that isn't how it works as most people don't care or don't understand the tracking stuff and just accept.

[–] Suspicious_Bee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I would love it if instead of accepting cookies people stopped visiting those sites, but most will just accept and move on. I hope the EU rules this as not complying with GDPR or something and they need to revert the changes, but I have no idea if it will actually happen.

[–] 1050053@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Accepting 3rd party cookies is just smoke and mirrors. Safari blocks them by default, so websites can just send data through the Webpage Javascript directly to their affiliates if they want to.

Your data is still being collected. To what extent, I don't know.

[–] onion@feddit.de 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The EU mandates active consent for all tracking, not just cookies.

[–] 1050053@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure if analytics and data such as browser signature can be rejected if they are considered required, but I'd be keen to know more.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Put a button saying accept all or make you go into a 2nd screen where you have to pick what you want. Guess what most people do to get it out of the way?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't want any cookies unless they come with milk (or save my login info for return visits on the same device).

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I Just disable cookies by default or have it session only cookies. Back before Firefox supported Auto rejecting or accepting prompts natively I used to use one of those. It would accept the cookies however since it only allowed session based cookies when I closed my browser It would delete them all.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fuck Veggie Tales. That shit is creepy Christian propaganda

[–] Menteros@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

That shit is ~~creepy~~ hilarious Christian propaganda

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social -2 points 9 months ago
[–] victorz@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Even if there's a reject button, still freaking annoying when you start reading and after two seconds you get interrupted by the prompt.

It used to be just the newsletter prompt, the notifications prompt, etc. Don't need an additional thing by law. 😑 Let's hope it goes away soon with the current developments.

[–] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.de 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't need an additional thing by law. 😑

You still don't need it if you don't spy on your users. Cookie banners are not required. Asking for consent before collecting data that goes beyond the necessary minimum is required.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 27 points 9 months ago

Indeed, websites like Wikipedia and Lemmy don't ask for cookies because they don't want to invade your privacy.

And they are completely in line with the EU law.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That's what I meant. I thought that was clear from the context. 😅 My bad.

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can install a browser addon like "I don't care about cookies" to automatically close these.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Those accept all the cookies.

Better to use Consent-o-Matic, which automatically rejects all unnecessary cookies.

The best thing about that tool is that it doesn't necessarily reject all unnecessary cookies. You can tell it your preferences, i.e. "I'm okay with basic analytics but not with ad cookies". That's probably the biggest feature of this addon, although I imagine most people who install the addon will want to disable everything.

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"In most cases, the add-on just blocks or hides cookie related pop-ups. When it's needed for the website to work properly, it will automatically accept the cookie policy for you (sometimes it will accept all and sometimes only necessary cookie categories, depending on what's easier to do). It doesn't delete cookies."

[–] onion@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

Hiding the popup should be the same as clicking reject, assuming the website is legal

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yep, this is the one I have. 👌💪 It's very good.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I've been using susperagent on Firefox but wasn't sure about its security, I'm new to the Firefox world.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Firefox plus superagent. Superagent is an extention that automatically applies your cookie setting to those prompts and you don't see them. I now reject all and haven't seen a pop up since installing. I can't vouch for its security though. I am pretty new to Firefox, but it seems to work.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I have consent-o-matic, works great on both desktop and mobile. 👍

[–] danielf@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I've recently discovered an extension called Consent-O-Matic, which automatically completes cookie forms. Also, uBlock Origin includes lists (disabled by default) that will block all sorts of annoyances, including newsletter shite.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I have them both and they're great!