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Hello,

searx.prvcy.eu has been dead for me for a couple of weeks now, anyone else?

I'm getting 502 Bad Gateway.

Thanks.

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[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] elvith@feddit.de 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or you can host your own instance quite easily. If you want just a new instance, pick one from the list above. Everyone who intends to run a public instance can enter it there and you're sure, that this person intends that instance to be public.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You know that hosting your own instance means unless you've people using it you'll lose anonymity. The big advantage of those public instances is that many people use them mixing your searches with others.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You know that hosting your own instance means unless you’ve people using it you’ll lose anonymity. The big advantage of those public instances is that many people use them mixing your searches with others.

That argument has been seen posted before, but is it really true ? Will Google, Bing, or any of the other search engines that you configure in your SearXNG instance really create a profile based on your searches and then know (SearXNG is supposed to proxy only and not show your real IP) it is you ?

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes its true, it's obvious, all your queries will come from the SearXNG server IP and they'll eventually match to the the information / account / other addresses they already have on you.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes its true, it’s obvious, all your queries will come from the SearXNG server IP and they’ll eventually match to the the information / account / other addresses they already have on you.

I assume that SearXNG as a proxy will not show your real IP address, nor with it show which monitor resolution and which web browser you use, to the search engines that the instance will query.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You buy a VPS that has a static IP to run your private instance. Then search engines will log the VPS IP for every single search query, with a bit of time/data they'll be able to tie that IP address to your profile. All it takes is for you to open a few websites that use google analytics with your adblocker disabled for some reason and... game over.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I see your point. One solution : run Pi-hole in your local network to block analytics.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I bet google has 200 more ways to cross records and detect whenever you're proxying your queries.

[–] MalReynolds@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I pipe mine through a vpn, should look like anyone elses searches...

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No because you're most likely the only one running a SearXNG instance on that VPN public IP. Google will eventually cross reference information and figure out that queries coming from that IP are only yours.

[–] MalReynolds@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not so sure about that, are SearXNG immeadiately identifiable as such, if not it just looks like any other search. Also does the evil eye actuaully care about edge cases like self hosted SearXNG? Still, might be nice to rotate the exit node...

ETA I also keep google off for default searches, and use it by bang only when other things fail, a rare occurrence.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but its always a question of what providers do you trust.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. Trust is always a thing on the Internet. And uptime too. searx.be / yewtu.be (From the same person. They posted when their previous provider took them down) has been stable and useful for me for a long time. I do trust Disroot and they have search too : https://search.disroot.org If it does not work you can complain via their XMPP chat, or file a bug at one of their other services.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What's your level of trust in their provider, netcup? For instance I would never trust anything hosted at Hetzner and Linode because they've been known to intercept traffic.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What’s your level of trust in their provider, netcup? For instance I would never trust anything hosted at Hetzner and Linode because they’ve been known to intercept traffic.

Interesting. Do you have sources for this statement ?

[–] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

note that basically any ISP will intercept traffic if asked by a government - they're literally legally required ro

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

TIL about searXNG

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You can find new instances here: https://searx.space

You might also want to give Kagi a try. It's paid though.